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Why are people acting like Wilder-Fury 3 is a forgone conclusion? Crazy...

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  1. jm0b Puncher of Holes

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    Who did Deontay hire as his replacement trainer?
     
  2. kezxtie Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    People thinking it's a foregone conclusion makes Wilder even more dangerous

    All the pressure is on Fury, not just to beat a guy he already dominated but to secure that 9 figure AJ contract.

    If he loses, then he's potentially cost himself hundreds of millions of dollars.
     
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  3. TheMaster Take The Road To Reality

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    Except Wilder isnt just 'a puncher'. He has the highest KO ratio in HW boxing history and these are brutal, lights out KO's including the Fury KO with exception of miraculous recovery.

    He knocked down Fury twice so sharing that much ring time he can adapt and be more dangerous.
    He would have surely learned something from the 2nd bout.
    People are hyped for the Fury Joshua bout so they are pretending this isn't a strong chance but I would say this is still 70-30 Fury which is far from decided.
     
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  4. Seano Hands of bone

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    I don't believe its confirmed he changed anyone.
     
  5. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If only we had an insider on the forum we could readily get reliable information from.

    Free @RR
     
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    Their going to keep making this fight until Wilder manages to win.

    Because a fat retired guy embarrassed the American "a-level athlete" and they can't except it.
     
  7. Buddy Revell Amazon Prime Unboxing Champion

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    To be honest it felt a bit harsh on second thought. Arsenal might've been a better comparison but i just that Wilder wasn't polished enough to warrant it. Maybe it's because i'm 40,but-- Arsenal still equals "class" in my mind. The big London club, Bergkamp, Pires, Henry, etc
     
  8. mb2621 Green Belt

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    Wilder is nothing more than a slugger and needs a certain range to be effective. Fury figured him out at the end of the first fight. Really, both fights showed Fury is the better overall boxer.
     
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  9. toogreen Yellow Belt

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    fighting Wilder on the outside like Fury did in the first fight is the wrong strategy because then Wilder can get full extension on his best punch, the right straight to the jaw

    Fury didn’t do that in the second fight and won’t do that in the 3rd, but of course Wilder still has a puncher’s chance.
     
  10. Jonny Ninja Black Belt

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    That’s a better analogy. Everton are probably hundreds-1 to win the title, id give David price Better odds than that
    Are you an arsenal fan?
     
  11. Hugh G Rection Brown Belt

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    As a Leeds fan I still shudder at the thought of Henry. Ripped us apart every time.
     
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  12. Buddy Revell Amazon Prime Unboxing Champion

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    No. I'm a casual Spurs fan, a plastic fan as y'all would say (or might not as there hasn't been much glory in it lol). I got into them in the mid-90s back when the blond bomber Jurgen Klinsmann was there. It's been a disappointing year considering their coming off Champions League final and poised to finish outside of the top 4 this year. Hard luck injuries, Kane, key players in bad form, Alli, to name a few.There's still hope for Europa League though.

    You'd give Price better odds against whom? Mike Tyson? ;)
     
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    The only question is does fury have a mental breakdown leading up to the fight other then that, Fury owns him. Fury getting up in the first fight had more of an effect on Wilder then Fury getting knocked down had on Fury. Then in the second fight Fury walked right to him and Ko'd him, something no one thought would happen. Wilder fights scared that its going to happen again or fights to angry and wants to prove something, both bad for Wilder
     
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  14. Kovalev's "Man Bag" I don't do titles

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    I predicted it would happen so that's not entirely accurate. There was another poster or two around here that did as well.
     
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  15. Sharkhunter Purple Belt

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    my bad, good call
     
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    And the worst record of any HW champ. THere is a slight relationship there to find. For years it was comical how Wilder avoided legit opponents. Thats why his record is that special. I dont expect non boxing people to see this but in an MA forum this should be common knowledge.
     
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  17. Jonny Ninja Black Belt

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    Spurs and arsenal were my local teams growing up but my step dad used to take next see West Ham instead. I blame him for supporting a shit team and years of heartache.
    As for klinsmann I just wanted to hate him just as I generally dislike spurs (they are far from popular amongst other London fans!). The moment he started mocking himself and diving for his goal celebration, he was impossible to dislike. Great player with a great sense of humour as well.

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  18. jm0b Puncher of Holes

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    Fellow spurs fan.

    We've struggled for the last few years because the board were refusing to pay for big or even middling players. They say it's not related to the £1billion+ they spent on the new grounds but that's a lie. The amazing, brilliant but also fortuitous champions league run really papered over the cracks of an awful season and a half under Poch.

    Also the players tired of Pochettino's tactics and relentlessly repetitive training structure. He was great at setting up, but if his plan didnt work initially all too often no tactical changes would be made until it was far too late in the game.

    Add in the constant injury issues and not having a home stadium and it makes a recipe for going slightly backwards, and with Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield and United all having a good season we better pray for 5th place and City to be banned from Europe next year if we wanna play in the CL.

    Interesting time to be a Spurs fan for sure.
     
  19. jm0b Puncher of Holes

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    It's all so weird. Wilder is a fucking weirdo.

    Unless he instated Jesus Pugilist Christ as his trainer I don't give him much chance against Fury in the 3rd. Even if he learns technically how to counter being walked down, I don't think he has the acumen to actually do it. Or Fury comes in with a completely new strategy to freak him out even more. It's Fury's to lose imo.
     
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  20. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    You can say whatever you want about his record but many fighters have fought worse competition and never sniffed Wilder’s KO’s. And most of todays HWs resumes are pretty similar.

    Same people who love to claim Wilder is such a bum and can crusher are also calling Fury an ATG for beating him.
     

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