Why Andrew Cuomo would beat Hillary Clinton in a Democratic Primary

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  1. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Were Andrew Cuomo to run for president against Hillary Clinton, I think we'd see an absolute walloping, on par with the 2008 ass-kicking, by Cuomo over Clinton. There is simply no one one around that has better credibility on the Left, with the achievements to back it up, as Andrew Cuomo. He is Elizabeth Warren if Elizabeth Warren has ever done anything in her life in government.

    Andrew Cuomo is:

    1. Ludicrously pro-abortion.

    2. Dominates NY politics, and has effectively ended the Republican party in NY.

    3. Rabidly pro-gay marriage, well before Hillary or Obama came out for it.

    4. Has effectively managed to run a state with relatively good budgets, in spite of his ludicrous liberalness.

    5. Has environmental, immigration, and race cred with his anti-fracking, pro-illegal immigration/amnesty, and anti-cop statements/actions while in office.

    Andrew Cuomo would make a mockery out of Hillary Clinton who laughs at getting rapists off their crimes, failing to save Americans in Benghazi, overseeing revolution and warfare in the Middle East, and having nothing but foreign policy defeats in her ignoble tenure as secretary of state. Oh, and voting for the Iraw War as a senator.

    Hillary will lose to Andrew Cuomo. It won't even be close.
     
  2. Queen B

    Queen B Silver Belt

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    Cuomo would make a good electoral run, although Bloomberg did do a better job in the NY office
     
  3. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Bloomberg won't run on the Democratic ticket for a presidential election.

    Bloomberg was mayor, also, not governor.
     
  4. Queen B

    Queen B Silver Belt

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    I think he would have a better chance 2016 as Republican than Cuomo or Hilary as Dem.
     
  5. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    No way Bloomberg could win a Republican primary as a liberal (which he is).

    There are no Nelson Rockefellers left.
     
  6. Queen B

    Queen B Silver Belt

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    He'd certainly have a better chance of winning the Republican primary as a moderate conservative than as a democrat
     
  7. sabretruth

    sabretruth Gold Belt

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    Public sector unions hate Cuomo. That is a core Democratic constituency. No way he wins the primary.
     
  8. Spycho

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    Hillary by mounted triangle.
     
  9. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Unions are no longer political powerhouses anymore. They represent the lowest amount of people they've represented for years upon years, and public sector unions are smaller than any private union.
     
  10. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Bloomberg has no conservative credentials aside from stop and frisk. He's definitively a liberal democrat on every major issue:

    He's pro-choice.

    Anti-gun.

    A nanny statist.

    Heavy for environmental regulation.

    Is at least moderate-dovish on foreign policy, with the possible exception of Israel (which works great for the Democrats who love doves who love Israel).
     
  11. sabretruth

    sabretruth Gold Belt

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    A candidate despised by SEIU, NEA, and AFT isn't going to be the Dem candidate for Preisdent.
     
  12. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    In 1980, yes.

    In 2016, with a STERLING record as a super left wing governor of a major US state?

    He has the donors to back him. There is no way he couldn't secure financing to win the primaries.
     
  13. Farmer Br0wn

    Farmer Br0wn Farmer Br0wn belt

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    No....... Just........ No. Cuomos anti-gun stance only polls well in the north east and west (left) coast. Cuomo would get destroyed in the Iowa caucus, South Carolina and Florida primaries. He MIGHT do well in New Hampshire, but I doubt it. Let's not forget the NRA and GOA would be campaigning against him from day one. If the NRA can cost Gore his home state in 2000, I'm sure the NRA could derail such an anti-freedom candidate with little trouble.
     
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    Farmer Br0wn Farmer Br0wn belt

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    But the bigger question. Do you honestly think Cuomo has a snowballs chance of winning the General election? Due to his rabid anti-gun/freedom stance he can kiss Ohio goodbye. Florida and the entire south is gonna go (R).

    Pretty much the only states that Cuomo can count on are California, Washington, Oregon, NY State, Mass., Pennsylvania, Connecticut. He MIGHT get two more states.
     
  15. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog Platinum Member

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    Well, the problem is that you're fabricating his "anti-freedom" (LOL) stance, and he'd have a good chance in Ohio and Florida, and a very good chance in all the states Democrats usually win. It's just the real anti-freedom zealots in states that started a war in order to defend their ability to enslave human beings that he'd have no chance of winning.

    That said, I wouldn't bet on him winning the Democratic primary. I'd take Clinton over any individual candidate, but the field over Clinton.
     
  16. LucasWithLidOff

    LucasWithLidOff Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Clinton would crush Canmo in any real or imagined democratic primary.
     
  17. ShoelessRye

    ShoelessRye Gold Belt

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    Clinton's have the Dem big fish donor base on lockdown, Obama will support Clinton as well and will push his grass roots donor base to support Clinton. Don't forget Hillary Clinton was a Us Senator from NY, she has the same donor base there and the only money Cuomo would get would be from the rich Dems donating to both Cuomo and Clinton, and I bet they'd send a little more to Hillary to stay on her (and Bill's) good side. Both Gillibrand and Schumer would endorse Hillary over Cuomo, NYC Mayor del Blasio would endorse Clinton over Cuomo (he's a Clintonite, Bill campaigned for his mayor run).

    Hillary is a nationally known entity, Cuomo is hardly known outside of NY/North East neighbor States.
     
  18. MeatheadMike

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    Yes, but on the flip he was quite republican in his policies towards education, the teachers, and other unions in NYC. IMO he wouldn't do well as a democrat or a republican because he has given both sides reasons not to like him.
     
  19. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Every Liberal is anti-gun. Hillary Clinton does not have a long record of supporting gun-rights.

    Cuomo and Hillary Clinton face serious problems this electoral cycle for many of their social issues, but I think both could reasonably fair well if Barrack Obama, who basically espouses the same sort of opinion on guns, could win two elections.

    This election would not live/die by guns.
     
  20. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Okay. He did have some conflicts with the teachers' union. But then again: Who -hasn't-? The teachers' union is awful, especially here in NY.

    Normal union relations weren't too bad.
     

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