Rich's ground game was grossly underrated and he had nice transitions, but he struggled against big dudes. The only reason I got to train with him was because he was looking to improve against bigger, stronger guys on the ground. He knew it was a problem, though he certainly never worded it that way. He was a better fighter, p4p, than Forrest but Forrest overwhelmed Rich with his size and positional control. Bader is bigger, stronger with better wrestling. Again, I think Prime Rich was better p4p, but he had issues against size and strength. The only time he even took fights at Franklinweight was for a paycheck, let alone LHW.