Who would have won in a fight between Stu Hart vs Helio Gracie?

Who would have won in a fight between Stu Hart vs Helio Gracie?


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Stu Hart:
(May 3, 1915 – October 16, 2003)
5'11"
231lbs
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

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Credentials:
Stu Hart began amateur wrestling when he joined the YMCA in Edmonton in 1929. Hart was trained in catch wrestling in his youth by other boys. Speaking of it, Stu said that his "head would be blue by the time they let go of him". Stu taught this 'shoot style' to all who trained under him in the 1980s and 1990s with the thought that teaching his students real submission moves would make their pro wrestling style sharper.

By 1937 he won a gold medal in the welterweight class from the Amateur Athletic Union of Canada. His amateur career peaked in May 1940 when Hart won the Dominion Amateur Wrestling Championship in the light heavyweight category.

During the mid 30s Hart also coached wrestling at the University of Alberta.

Helio Gracie:
(October 1, 1913 – January 29, 2009)
5'9"
143lbs
Belém do Pará, Brazil

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Credentials:
A Brazilian martial artist who, together with his brother Carlos Gracie, founded the martial art of Gracie jiu-jitsu and with Luiz França and Oswaldo Fadda the martial art of Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ).[1] According to Rorion Gracie, his father Hélio is one of the first sports heroes in Brazilian history; he was named Man of the Year in 1997 by the American martial arts publication Black Belt magazine.

A patriarch of the Gracie family, he was the father of Rickson Gracie, Royler Gracie, Royce Gracie, Relson Gracie, and Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Co-founder Rorion Gracie, among other sons and daughters. According to one of his most notable opponents, Masahiko Kimura, Gracie held the rank of 6th dan in judo.


 
Based on size and knowledge in catch wrestling I would have to go with Stu Hart.
 
Lol @ Helio and Rickson.

Stu Hart by far. 12-0 since '48.
 
Ummmm Stu's career achievement...Dominion Amateur Wrestling Championship?
Gracie would tap him as soon as he wanted, he fought guys much bigger constantly. Kimura was way more accomplished than Hart and beat Gracie, but had a massive size advantage as well as skills that were much more refined that the Canuck.
 
So this guy was an amateur wrestler who learned catch wrestling from other kids at the Y? Lol
 
Ummmm Stu's career achievement...Dominion Amateur Wrestling Championship?
Gracie would tap him as soon as he wanted, he fought guys much bigger constantly. Kimura was way more accomplished than Hart and beat Gracie, but had a massive size advantage as well as skills that were much more refined that the Canuck.

So this guy was an amateur wrestler who learned catch wrestling from other kids at the Y? Lol

Stu Hart was a legit Bad Ass that spent his whole life grappling. Don't let the fact that he was a pro wrestler fool you. Imagine if Sakuraba would have been a HW.
 
two tough old grizzled bastards.......I gotta go with gracie....(I think Stu makes a mistake and gets caught)
 
Stu Hart was a legit Bad Ass that spent his whole life grappling. Don't let the fact that he was a pro wrestler fool you. Imagine if Sakuraba would have been a HW.
Helio made his mark taking on all comers, Stu would have been just your average badass down in Brazil.
 
Helio made his mark taking on all comers, Stu would have been just your average badass down in Brazil.

Stu Hart was cut out of the same mold as Billy Robinson. You know the guy that showed Sakuraba submissions.
 
Also Helio couldn't submit Wladek Zbyszko and I don't think he was even known as a catch guy. Just a pro wrestler with a greco roman background. They fought to a draw with Helio laying underneath him the whole time.
 
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Helio by Stuart probably getting stabbed in the parking lot if he won
 
Helio could have had an equally legendary career as a 70s porn star
 
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