International Who think Cuba is the fault of the US?

Who is (mostly) to blame for Cuba's present dire condition?


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Don't know how to make a poll, so maybe a mod can help @Madmick . What's the split on whether the failures of Cuba are the fault of the totalitarian communist regime, the fault of the US, or there's no fault and those Cubans just don't know how good they have it?

The move now seems to be blaming the US for the abysmal failure of the communist dictatorship in Cuba for not propping up the Castro's slave plantation, from the same people who supported Chavez and claimed tbe US is at fault for that, and also claime "I'm not talking about Cuba, we should be like Sweden, even though I don't know shit about Sweden ".

Let's get on record here.
 
There would still be food shortages.

China Ramps Up Farm Imports to Cover Domestic Food Shortages - Bloomberg

Another famine coming? China struggles to meet basic food demands | TheHill

Kim Jong-un admits North Korea facing a 'tense' food shortage - BBC News

Venezuela’s Food Chain Is Breaking, and Millions Go Hungry - WSJ

We all know what happened in Russia.

"We want food"



Communist postage stamp for mail being sent out of the country.

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Communist lies!
 
Only a complete fucking moron blames the us. If communism or socialism works it wouldn't fail over and over. You think governments can run business better than private business?

Even if you lift the embargo it's not like the Cuban government would be cured of their complete incompetence.
 
This is what happens when you chase everyone worth a shit out of your country.
 
I’ll start the poll




1)No
 
Only a complete fucking moron blames the us. If communism or socialism works it wouldn't fail over and over. You think governments can run business better than private business?

Even if you lift the embargo it's not like the Cuban government would be cured of their complete incompetence.
You're underestimating the number of complete morons. I've responded to multiple people on here, Crystal ball and Karl kuklinski on you tube with huge audiences. Even a wapo writer went on tv and admitted that the "progressive" wing of the democrat party have to tread around criticism of the Cuban regime because they actually agree with it.
 
Sort of

I'm not sure the embargo or cold war fuckery helped and Russia for sure is also to blame
 
That would be D. There already is an A, B, and C. Let's rank it if you can. Seems you're willing to admit Cuba is a failure, which is already more than many are willing to admit, so to what degree is that the the fault of the US?
 
If the U.S. didn't interfere with Cuba and hadn't had an embargo, one out of two things would have happened. 1. Cuba is successful, has a thriving economy. 2. Cuba stays a poor shithole. If the latter, I don't think the Castro regime would have lasted as long as it has. The embargo didn't accomplish anything except help ensure the people there suffer.
 
Only a complete fucking moron blames the us. If communism or socialism works it wouldn't fail over and over. You think governments can run business better than private business?

Even if you lift the embargo it's not like the Cuban government would be cured of their complete incompetence.

We agree on the Cuba part. But many Socialist Democracies that combine free market capitalism with extensive public support are doing just as well as the US. Even better in many metrics. We should not pretend they aren't.
 
We agree on the Cuba part. But many Socialist Democracies that combine free market capitalism with extensive public support are doing just as well as the US. Even better in many metrics. We should not pretend they aren't.
I have no issues with capitalism combined with social programs. They are necessary. My issue is government trying to control everything, as in the case with Cuba. We are on the same page here.
 
I am sure the leadership is partly to blame in Cuba. But the #1 Super power in the world and one of your closest neighbors embargoed you for decades probably has a big part to play on things as well.

So when will we talk about Capitalist Haiti and it's failings and protests in the streets?
 
How many Latin-American countries aside from Cuba are shitholes? How many aren't?

I think honestly answering those questions would give you a good idea as to where Cuba would be without an embargo.
 
We agree on the Cuba part. But many Socialist Democracies that combine free market capitalism with extensive public support are doing just as well as the US. Even better in many metrics. We should not pretend they aren't.
They don't have many freedoms in these socialist countries. When the government takes over more, they also take away your freedoms. Free speech, 2nd Amendment, right to peaceful assembly, you don't have as many individual freedoms in socialist countries.

And I think the USA is quickly headed there.
 
They don't have many freedoms in these socialist countries. When the government takes over more, they also take away your freedoms. Free speech, 2nd Amendment, right to peaceful assembly, you don't have as many individual freedoms in socialist countries.

And I think the USA is quickly headed there.
And the forum muppets somehow think they will on the inside of the new system, wait till they find out they were just useful idiots….until they’re of no use anymore
 
And the forum muppets somehow think they will on the inside of the new system, wait till they find out they were just useful idiots….until they’re of no use anymore
Look at some of these countries that have socialized medicine. They were arresting pregnant women for sitting outside in the park, arresting people for being outside their home. The UK, Canada, Australia, none of these countries are free. They will lockdown even harder again. And they will force injections on people now or else they won't let them buy food or things in a store.
 
Given Cuba tried to fuck over America first, I'd say it is more Cuba's fault.

That's not to take away from the terrible things that the US government has done to other countries.
 
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