Who is your NBA Coach of the Year heading into the all-star break?

By this logic any of the player awards should also go to someone on the team with the best record: chiefly the MVP & DPOY.

Nurse has the Raptors on a 14-game winning streak, currently, and 2nd in the East after the mighty Bucks-- 3rd in the NBA. This despite that Kawhi, Valanciunus, and Danny Green all took off before the season, and also in spite of the fact none of their four best players-- VanVleet, Lowry, Siakam, and Ibaka-- have played more than 43 (of 53) games so far due to injury. In fact, nobody but OG Anoby & Terence Davis has played played more than 45 games.

They're 1.5 games ahead of the Celtics, 4.5 games ahead of Miami, and 6.5+ games ahead of every other Eastern team. They're currently projected for a freaking 60-win season.

Unless things change it's Nurse by a nautical mile.
T. Davis is an undrafted rookie who's top ten in the entire league in RPM, win shares /per 48. And the first undrafted rookie ever to score over 30. Yet he wasn't invited to the rising stars game..being a raps fan and being underrated is becoming the new norm. Masai is easily the best exec in the NBA
 
T. Davis is an undrafted rookie who's top ten in the entire league in RPM, win shares /per 48. And the first undrafted rookie ever to score over 30. Yet he wasn't invited to the rising stars game..being a raps fan and being underrated is becoming the new norm. Masai is easily the best exec in the NBA
When I texted all this to my little brother he responded by pointing out that in six years in the NBA's D-League/G-League/NBDL/fuckingwhatevertheycallitnow that 23 of his players got called up.

The guy is some sort of fucking wizard genius with developing talent.
 
1. Nurse - all those injuries and still rocking
2. Budenholzer is doing work

Carlisle and Donovan are seriously overachieving with respect to where you would think they should be and deserve a shout out.
 
When I texted all this to my little brother he responded by pointing out that in six years in the NBA's D-League/G-League/NBDL/fuckingwhatevertheycallitnow that 23 of his players got called up.

The guy is some sort of fucking wizard genius with developing talent.
Masai isn't a wizard. He just believes in athletes that can shootz and are long defenders.poeple pass on these dudes. And raps make em all stars. I'ts mostly the team
 
This is the 9th straight season the raps have performed better than Vegas and ESPN predicted. Being a team in Canada means no American National games. There's gotta be some experts that see this may be the deepest team of all time..

I really just don't understand why they undersold them to such a silly extent. You had "experts" thinking that they wouldn't even make the playoffs because Kawhi left, even though they went 17-5 without him last year...and they play in the East. The pre-season analysis of the Raptors is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
 
*Edit* Whoops! Screwed up the Raptors projection. Didn't update for their last five wins. Also screwed up the Bucks. Projections were based on records at the end of 2/10/2019.

For reference here was ESPN's preseason summer prediction roundup:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27426015/nba-preseason-predictions-our-experts-picks-2019-20

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Prediction
1. Milwaukee Bucks: 57-25
2. Philadelphia 76ers: 55-27
3. Boston Celtics: 48-34
4. Indiana Pacers: 46-36
5. Brooklyn Nets: 45-37
6. Toronto Raptors: 45-37
7. Miami Heat: 43-39
8. Orlando Magic: 41-41
9. Detroit Pistons: 38-44
10. Atlanta Hawks: 34-48
11. Chicago Bulls: 32-50
12. Washington Wizards: 28-54
13. New York Knicks: 26-56
14. Charlotte Hornets: 23-59
15. Cleveland Cavaliers: 22-60

Actual (Projected Standings)
1
Milwaukee Bucks 71-11
2 Toronto Raptors 61-21
3 Boston Celtics 56-26
4 Miami Heat 53-29
5 Philadelphia 76ers 50-31
6 Indiana Pacers 46-36
7 Brooklyn Nets 38-44
8 Orlando Magic 37-45
9 Chicago Bulls 30-52
10 Washington Wizards 28-54
11 Detroit Pistons 27-55
12 New York Knicks 26-56
13 Charlotte Hornets 25-57
14 Atlanta Hawks 25-57
15 Cleveland Cavaliers 20-62

Top Overachiever: Toronto Raptors (+16 wins)
Top Underachiever: Detroit Pistons (-11 wins)


WESTERN CONFERENCE

Prediction
1. Denver Nuggets: 54-28
2. LA Clippers: 54-28
3. Houston Rockets: 53-29
4. Utah Jazz: 52-30
5. Los Angeles Lakers: 51-31
6. Golden State Warriors: 49-33
7. Portland Trail Blazers: 47-35
8. San Antonio Spurs: 43-39
9. Dallas Mavericks: 41-41
10. New Orleans Pelicans: 40-42
11. Minnesota Timberwolves: 38-44
12. Sacramento Kings: 37-45
13. Oklahoma City Thunder: 33-49
14. Phoenix Suns: 28-54
15. Memphis Grizzlies: 27-55

Actual (Projected Standings)
1
Los Angeles Lakers 63-19
2 Los Angeles Clippers 56-26
3 Denver Nuggets 55-27
4 Utah Jazz 54-28
5 Houston Rockets 52-30
6 Dallas Mavericks 49-33
7 Oklahoma City Thunder 48-34
8 Portland Trail Blazers 40-42
9 Memphis Grizzlies 38-44
10 New Orleans Pelicans 37-45
11 San Antonio Spurs 36-46
12 Sacramento Kings 34-48
13 Phoenix Suns 33-49
14 Minnesota Timberwolves 28-54
15 Golden State Warriors 21-61

Top Overachiever: Oklahoma City Thunder (+15 wins)
Top Underachiever: Golden State Warriors (-28 wins)
 
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A lot of coaches are doing a good job so far this year. But, yeah, I'd give it to Nurse. I'm a little bias, and although I wouldn't give the award to him, Brad Stevens is doing a very good job too. Most don't realize the top starting rotation has barely played together this year. Brown, Tatum, Walker, and Smart have all missed a lot of games this year.
 
By this logic any of the player awards should also go to someone on the team with the best record: chiefly the MVP & DPOY.

MVP usually is given to the best player on the best team, with some exceptions

Gianiass has a 62% chance to win MVP according to Basketball-Reference

Next closest is Harden with 9%

DPOY is irrelevant
 
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MVP usually is given to the best player on the best team, with some exceptions

Gianiass has a 62% chance to win MVP according to Basketball-Reference

Next closest is Harden with 9%

DPOY is irrelevant
"With some exceptions".
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2017: Russell Westbrook
2014: Kevin Durant
2012: Lebron James
2008: Kobe Bryant
2006: Steve Nash
2004: Kevin Garnett
2002: Tim Duncan
2001: Allen Iverson
1999: Karl Malone

So in the past two decades, 9 out of 20 MVPs, or nearly half the winners were not on the team with the best record in the regular season.
 
"With some exceptions".
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2017: Russell Westbrook
2014: Kevin Durant
2012: Lebron James
2008: Kobe Bryant
2006: Steve Nash
2004: Kevin Garnett
2002: Tim Duncan
2001: Allen Iverson
1999: Karl Malone

So in the past two decades, 9 out of 20 MVPs, or nearly half the winners were not on the team with the best record in the regular season.

I guess this proves that the MVP usually does go to the best player on the best team

If you go back further I'm sure the gap will increase

I dont really wanna argue tho, I'm not a fan of either team anyways so it doesn't matter to me who wins COTY
 
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I guess this proves that the MVP usually does go to the best player on the best team

If you go back further I'm sure the gap will increase

I dont really wanna argue tho, I'm not a fan of either team anyways so it doesn't matter to me who wins COTY
Barely, and the best player has undue influence on his team's record in the NBA. The seven wonders of the past four decades demonstrate this overwhelming influence: Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and Bird.

You say it like it's an automatic, but in addition to the 9/20 above, one could easily nullify all the remaining 11 seasons where the best player in the league (regardless of team) won the award, it's usually quite obvious, and the remaining instances where the guy who happened to be the best player on the team with the best record, but not he best player in the league would be:

  • 2019: Giannis (few thought him the best already; the vast majority of votes would have been gobbled up by Lebron, Durant, and Kawhi)
  • 2018: Harden
  • 2016: Curry
  • 2015: Curry
  • 2011: Rose
  • 2006: Nowitzki
  • 2005: Nash
  • 2004: Garnett

That's 8/20 MVPs where the guy who happened to be the best player on the best team wasn't by consensus or plurality considered the best player in the league. Duncan in 2003 was on the bubble (some would have Shaq or Kobe, but at that point, it was quite competitive between those three).

Some argue this is what it should be, but you're arguing that is what it is, and no, it isn't. The NBA MVP has always been more complex and dynamic than that.
 
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