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Who is the most complete fighter? Fedor or GSP?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by shinbone28, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. Nobru Purple Belt

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    I do consider it. Fighters at GSP weight couldnt his as hard as in Fedors, but were MUCH faster on the other hand. GSP speed and timing, plus the use his reach, made him great at avoiding being hit, which is very important.

    oh, and to add in some. I think GSP was more complete, by a small margin as I said before, but I preferred watching Fedor fights by A LOT.
     
  2. it's honestly a coin toss. GSP fought better guys, Fedor fought bigger guys with more ko power. Both were able to dominate in different ways.
     
  3. SuperNerd Off-Season Mode.

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    Which was not what I was ever talking about. I was talking about your reasoning that I actually quoted.

    You're now talking about something else. That's great but I do not care, I am not arguing that, nor do I want too.
     
  4. Highflyer Brown Belt

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    Both Fedor and GSP are very good. And one is not far off from the other.

    But what GSP lacks in the striking is the power punches (technique wise also), like hooks, uppercuts, and overhands, and torqueing to generate power, and combinations. He seldom throws more than a 2 hit combo, like a superman jab/punch then kick, or jab jab... I'm thinking that Fedor can do all of this, but he can also fight on the inside using combos and multiple successive strikes, like what he did to Tim Sylvia.

    Everything else being equal (though GSP's grappling/wrestling is phenomenal, but then he's fighting guys his size/strength only whereas Fedor fights bigger guys at times so he doesn't look as dominant in this area), the above is why I would give slight edge to Fedor.
     
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  5. masterless Sherdog Veteran

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    As a HUGE Fedor fan, definitely GSP. Why? Simple, GSP cuts weight and Fedor never did.

    GSP is basically the better athlete and therefore a more complete fighter than Fedor in MMA. However, Fedor and his record will always be considered the GOAT in comparison.
     
  6. SuperNerd Off-Season Mode.

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    I don't follow..?
     
  7. VroomyJeeps Brown Belt

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    Why would anyone pick fedor?

    Fedors boxing was looping overhand rights and some head movement.

    Gsp had technical jabs and techniques, he was also far better with kicks and more diverse. (spinning back kicks. Low kicks, high kicks, superman punches etc)

    Wrestling no contest, gsp had the best offensive wrestling and his tdd was amazing.

    Bjj / submissions. Both guys were competant on the ground. Fedor may have better submissions but maybe not, he did have more submission wins but a lot of them were over people with no bjj.

    Overall ground game goes to gsp, who probably had the best ground control in mma history, and amazing guard passes.
     
  8. moreorless87 Straba

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    One of the things that stands out about Fedor is that he did have the speed/agility of a much smaller man.

    The question is hard to answer as "complete" isn't that well defined, GSP used elements of striking, wrestling and sub fighting BUT I would argue that his overall tactics were still much narrower than Fedor's.
     
  9. JohnnyTowers Brown Belt

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    Different styles.

    Fedor can and has finished from every position.
     
  10. Mondo Freaks Green Gucci Suit

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    GSP. Fedor looked completely lost in a cage.
     
  11. GalegodoVeneno Orange Belt

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    St. Pierre didn't have the "finish you" attitude... How can a fighter can be complete without that?
     
  12. spardeous Blue Belt

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    Fedor. He's one of the few who can boast being a great striker, finisher, grappler + submission specialist, plus he liked to fight his opponents in their confident areas, and at the same time, he was top 3 of 'least damage ever taken'. At one point (2009?) they ran the numbers and found that he got hit less than Anderson Silva or Machida.
     
  13. scorpipede eschewal

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    Fedor is very much an incomplete fighter. Ridiculous to argue. He has a bag of tricks and they're effective but if you are actually trying to use the actual meaning of the concept "complete fighter" Fedor shouldn't be on a list of the top 100.

    GSP, on the other hand, should be near the top. He lacks killer instinct I think but other than that it doesn't get much more complete.
     
  14. kikikhan Banned Banned

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    Fedor easily.

    GSP was great at humping and jabbing, but never had to deal with a significant size, reach and strength disadvantage.

    Fedor was tested against everything and he showed that he can cope with anything. Surviving BF's full mount for a round is crazy. I know he lost, but still. Nothing GSP did impressed me more. And I like GSP a lot.
     
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    I would reverse that, rather it was GSP who had a very effective "box of tricks" that he used to beat opponents rather than showing all round mastery of different aspects of fighting.

    Georges game was though out most of his career to pick away with jabs and the odd kick from range, time a double leg when someone pushed forward and then maintain position and delivery largely ineffective GnP. He was VERY good at working this game but when he ended up being pushed beyond it things did not look so pretty.
     
  16. Nobru Purple Belt

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    I mean, in truth, both were so good that we have all kinds of info/stats to claim one was superior to the other, and then you think again and there is something you forgot.

    Since they fought in very much different weights and styles, I think its kinda pointless to try to compare then.

    Fedor was a scary beast. Nog fan at that time but damn, Fedor was too much. Chubby brawler, infinite gas, movement, speed, ko power in both hands, good chin, pressure...

    In my opinion he should stay where he is, unless he REALLY can still compete in high level, which is doubtful. Anderson, claimed as GOAT by many and not too long ago, overextended his career - and faced a VERY GOOD opponent in Weidman, cant deny that - and we know what happened. I prefer to keep the good and old Fedor memories than seeing he losing to the likes of Travis Browne or other bums with pure KO power and no skills.
     
  17. wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    Jose Aldo is the most skilled fighter in history. So underrated.
     
  18. Apocalypse604 Banned Banned

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    Gsp....fedor would get sloppy at times and let himself get caught in precarious situations. After the serra debacle, George became the most efficient as far as winning a fight and rarely ever getting himself in trouble.
     
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    Fedor.
     

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