Who is the GOAT conqueror? Alex or Genghis?

[Matty da Ranga]

Now I know some of you may be offended by me calling these guys "great" because they killed, raped, blah blah

I'm not here to get into a debate about morality, but rather whose strategic/leadership accomplishments you find more impressive?

Feel free to throw some others into the mix if you feel that it's not between these two

 

[Medical Marijuana Man]

Well Hitler nearly conquered the world

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Khan took more territory from more different types of societies. I'll go with that, but I'm not very knowledgeable about them.

 

[Matty da Ranga]

Well Hitler nearly conquered the world

Napoleon came far, far closer.

Was probably a better person to boot, even though that's debatable as well.....I guess

 

[Medical Marijuana Man]

A quick Google search says its Khan

 

[Armbars]

Chrissy Columbus!

I heard he used to smash babies off rocks, that's got to count for something?

 

[bad seed]

Well Hitler nearly conquered the world

he didnt even come close. Even if he won all his major battles, there was no way he was going to hold that territory.

The true greatest conqueror is Queen Victoria. The modern world is still living under the shadows of her empire.

 

[JJSBUR]

Alexander only had a handful of people around 35K and was gone for a very long time.. A number of cities carries his name. Alexander went into India which was very tough at the time.

Genghis didn't have that many people either but
it was more than Alexander had. Genghis made it all the way to central Europe. I don't think he went deep into India, will have to look that up.

Not sure on an answer.

 

[JSN]

Purely as a conquerer than GK. Alexander wins on nation building.

These are fundamentally very different type of conquerer. Timujin/GK comes from the Eurasian steppe region. His people are seminomadic pastoralists like the Scythians and Huns. They are not culture creators; they are culture destroyers and at best adopters.

Alexander’s Macedonians, on the other hand, brought order to more corrupt/less organized territories. A lot of what was built has lasted until modern times but there have been some pretty huge blows from two waves of culture destroyers- Islam and the mongols.

 

[Lord Coke]

Khan for the win. He tamed the world.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Cao Cao!

 

[KnightTemplar]

 

[aunshi189]

Queen Victoria

 

[4daLuLZ]

The GOAT conqueror ?
There can only be one............

 

[Jack Handy jr]

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darn you for beating me to that gif

 

[revoltub]

Khan.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Well Hitler nearly conquered the world

What?

No he didn't

Not surprised a moron like you would say something like this

 

[HIMBOB]

Anyone else watching Marco Polo?

 

[Starck]

Alexander only had a handful of people around 35K and was gone for a very long time.. A number of cities carries his name. Alexander went into India which was very tough at the time.

Genghis didn't have that many people either but
it was more than Alexander had. Genghis made it all the way to central Europe. I don't think he went deep into India, will have to look that up.

Not sure on an answer.

No, Genghis died pretty early on. His descendants made it to Europe.

 

[Seaside]

Purely as a conquerer than GK. Alexander wins on nation building.

These are fundamentally very different type of conquerer. Timujin/GK comes from the Eurasian steppe region. His people are seminomadic pastoralists like the Scythians and Huns. They are not culture creators; they are culture destroyers and at best adopters.

Alexander’s Macedonians, on the other hand, brought order to more corrupt/less organized territories. A lot of what was built has lasted until modern times but there have been some pretty huge blows from two waves of culture destroyers- Islam and the mongols.

Agreed. Khan was better in the genetic racial sense he spread his genes and mongol asiatic genes to conquer almost all of central asia except for tajikistan (mountainous country filled with persian/afghan type people). But he did essentially what the Spanish and portugese did in all of latin america by killing male line off and mixing out people. Now today kazakhstan, uzbekistan, kyrgzsatan are mostly asiatic origin. Turkmenistan sort of but enjoyed protection from Iran. Tajikistan got skipped over. And the mongols never held territory with absolute dominance once they went further west of kazakhstan. I suspect the dense population of anatolia and iran was problematic for them as was many parts of ukraine.