Who is the best P4P boxer of the 1940s?

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  1. Sgr Rob

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    I'm very curious to know, because that's the decade my boxing history becomes a bit sketchy. I don't know much about the sport before then. Also, if you can please explain briefly why.


    Also, thoughts on my P4P rankings from now until then:

    2000s: Manny Pacquiao
    HM: Floyd Mayweather
    1990s: Roy Jones Jr
    1980s: Thomas Hearns
    HM: Sugar Ray Leonard; Marvin Hagler; Mike Tyson
    1970s: Roberto Duran
    1960s: Muhammad Ali
    1950s: Sugar Ray Robinson
     
  2. XCuTioNeR

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    Joe Louis?
    Kid Gavilan?
     
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    Willie Pep
     
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    I going to say Joe Louis.
     
  5. Trance

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    I'd say Joe Louis as well, He also did a good bit in the 30's if I remember right. I'd say Henry Armstrong for the 30's though.

    And I would have Ray Leonard as p4p in the 80's, But that list matches fairly well.

    I do love me some Willie Pep. :D
     
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    Yeah, i just saw you have Hearns over Leonard in the 80's. No, he does deserve a HM but Leonard should be the main man in the 80's.
     
  7. Trance

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    I'm Curious to who you guys would have in from the 1900's to 1930's, even before then. There's a lot of big names. Jack Johnson, Sam Langford, Henrey Armstrong, Dempsey, Jeffries, Greb, Tunney, and the list goes on.
     
  8. Sharkey

    Sharkey Who finishes 3rd?

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    Robinson, Pep, Ezzard Charles...take your pick. Guys like Ike Williams, Burley, Cerdan, Manuel Ortiz underneath them. Joe Louis at the beginning of the decade.
     
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    Armstrong had a pretty good run in the beginning of the decade too
     
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    70's was Carlos Monzon!
     
  11. Sgr Rob

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    Good answers, guys. So far the consensus seems to lean towards these three men:

    Joe Louis
    Willie Pep
    Sugar Ray Robinson

    I'm going to have to look into them (and Gavlin, Charles and Armstrong, too) to get more into who would top.
     
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    1940s.

    Joe Louis
    Willie Pep
    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Those 3 were the best.

    Some other top guys

    Ezzard Charles
    Billy Conn (early 40s)
    Ike Williams
    Tony Zale
    Rocky Graziano
    Beau Jack
    Bob Montgomery
    Jake LaMotta
    Archie Moore
    Charley Burley
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Sandy Saddler
    Manuel Ortiz
     
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    I'd go with Joe Luis, but I am inclined to say Jake LaMotta, the only problem with Lamotta was the fact he threw a fight, but he was iron willed and a tough fight for anyone, and he was the first guy to beat Sugar Ray.
     
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    1900s - Jack Johnson

    1920s - Dempsey

    1940s - Ezzard Charles!
     
  15. mozfonky

    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    same guy who is the p4p of all time SRR, word is that he was never better than he was as a welter, therefore, this is when he was in his prime.
     
  16. Shot

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    First guy to beat Sugar Ray, but Sugar beat him 5 times :D. And LaMotta outweighed him by about 15 pounds. Gotta give Sugar Ray the P4P ranking above LaMotta simply for that.
     
  17. mozfonky

    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    I've heard it said that jake was underrated. Odd thing about a guy with such a rough reputation, he had a very low kayo percentage and tender hands. He did a lot of body punching as a result, also heard he had tiny hands.
     
  18. The Fan Man

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    I've heard the same thing. I think his skills get underrated because most people only have seen his fights against Robinson. It's a tough duty for anybody to exhibit boxing prowess with those conditions

    His comeback against Laurent Dauthuille in the 15th round is about the most amazing finish I can imagine.
     

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