International Who is more evil: Israel or Iran

[AWilder]

They both have evil leaders, but I wouldn't say the whole country is evil.

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

America is the biggest terrorist organization

 

[Madmick]

Iran and it's not remotely close.

 

[dildos]

Israel for sure.

Anyone that says otherwise is an absolute disgusting islamaphobe.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Iran is incredibly oppressive to its own people. My mom has a friend there who missed his chance to get out decades ago, and now has been stuck there, still trying to make ends meet in his 70s while barely being able to afford rent and utilities. He's only able to send messages to my mom every couple of months, and it's not uncommon for the police there to harass him and confiscate his phone just because they feel like it.

Say what you will about Israel's combat strategy, but at least they look out for their own people.

 

[curryjunkie]

Which one doesn't eat bacon?.......oh...

 

[Koro_11]

Israel for sure.

Anyone that says otherwise is an absolute disgusting islamaphobe.

Islam is cancer that is incompatible with modernity, that’s not a phobia that’s just facts.

That’s for the thread question, I’m gonna say both are pretty bad, just in different ways.

 

[Madmick]

Israel for sure.

Anyone that says otherwise is an absolute disgusting islamaphobe.

Islamophobia: 1a) an extreme fear and dislike of Islam

 

[Hog-train]

Both pieces of shit.

 

[deviake]

Israel overall is more evil, no question, domestically is probably better though it's an ethnostate soooo.

Paraphrased from first video:

"Everyone who hadn't been there said it was bad, everyone who had been there said it was good."

"If I could choose any country in the world to wake up naked, in the middle of nowhere, with no money, and I had to try and find my way back to civilization, it would be Iran. It's brilliant and I'd go back there in a heartbeat."

"Hopefully I've given you the side that the papers don't. My cynical view would be that when America does invade everyone will have been conditioned to think Iran is evil."

Edit: No one is saying it's perfect nor that their government is good.

 

[deviake]

People calling Iran religiously extreme, holy shit, have you ignorant motherfuckers looked at the shit the GOP tries to do like Trump bibles in schools (not even the tip of the ice berg), the shit people in the Israeli government say, or gleaned Mike Huckabee's thoughts? Bush Jr's holy war? Might wanna look into that more than not at all. Oh, and lets not forget that the US regime changed Iran when it had a democratically elected leader. People like to just pretend that didn't happen.

Orientalism, the thread.

 

[deviake]

Slowly (quickly) but surely the West is actually becoming the Middle East, with their cavemen politics dominating our news and general discourse.

Fuck both of them.

If the rightwing had their way the US would be a fascist Christian Nationalist nation with unequal rights

 

[USA!USA!]

People calling Iran religiously extreme, holy shit, have you ignorant motherfuckers looked at the shit the GOP tries to do like Trump bibles in schools (not even the tip of the ice berg), the shit people in the Israeli government say, or gleaned Mike Huckabee's thoughts? Bush Jr's holy war? Might wanna look into that more than not at all. Oh, and lets not forget that the US regime changed Iran when it had a democratically elected leader. People like to just pretend that didn't happen.

Orientalism, the thread.

Come on man.. I don’t like a lot of the fundamentalist right wing, but to claim it is anything close to what Iran has right now is a pretty unhinged take LOL

 

[Streeter]

Iran by a diatance of all outside . Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world . Israel is no saints but there levels and isn't near Iran in terms of being evil. Im sure every lefty will say Israel .

 

[deviake]

Come on man.. I don’t like a lot of the fundamentalist right wing, but to claim it is anything close to what Iran has right now is a pretty unhinged take LOL

I don't think I exaggerated at all. Women and minorities have only on paper had equal rights within the last few decades and that progress has been routinely fought by the GOP, who also want the 10 commandments in schools, bibles in schools, and statues of traitors to the country who fought for slavery to remain intact and what, I forget which southern state(s) are trying to resegregate schools. That's just off the top of my head. That is absolutely fucking insane.

I'm also going to reiterate because everyone glosses over this: The US regime changed Iran when it had a democratically elected government.

 

[Blayt7hh]

They're both terrible, Israel is worst by far, the death toll their wars in the middle east have caused is astronomical. The Arab spring was their effort via the US. Ukraine will now be given to Putin in exchange for Iran being given to Israel. Basically the majority of war since WW2 can be attributed to Israel.

US does what the Zionists in Israel want via mossad.

This is what things like Epstein are all about. Your current war with Iran is why the Epstein files are remaining hidden.

Israel essentially gained leverage over the worlds superpower after WW2 by compromising it's rulers, it's media and the entertainment industry. Largely through blackmail, but there's assassination, false flag operations and use of drugs to make people insane when they're going off script.

The sheer scale of it all is staggering and I think that puts Israel head and shoulders above the rest.

So staggering that it’s pretty nonsensical. The Arab Spring was not caused by Israel. That happened organically with citizens that were fed up with living under shitty regimes that restricted freedom and kept them destitute

 

[badascan]

Israel's government seems pretty shitty while being supported by their population. Their methods seem underhanded and clandestine and feel untrustworthy.

Iran kind of appears like a captured people, where religious fundamentalists have complete control and their people want to be free. We're told what's negative about them but never actually see it in America, like a lot of the world that's given to us as opposition to the west. (I.e. they fund terrorism) We're told this and terrorism happens, so that's not positive... But it's their way of exerting whatever power they might have.

We seem to be given positive propaganda about Israel while seeing the opposite often enough and only hearing negative things about Iran while seeing almost none of it... Iran feels similar to North Korea, behind while trying to loudly claim not to be, and Israel feels like America as far as having power and using it to achieve some ulterior goals... I'd say neither is more evil but we in the states see a lot more of Israel.

 

[nostradumbass]

I don't think I exaggerated at all. Women and minorities have only on paper had equal rights within the last few decades and that progress has been routinely fought by the GOP, who also want the 10 commandments in schools, bibles in schools, and statues of traitors to the country who fought for slavery to remain intact and what, I forget which southern state(s) are trying to resegregate schools. That's just off the top of my head. That is absolutely fucking insane.

I'm also going to reiterate because everyone glosses over this: The US regime changed Iran when it had a democratically elected government.

So you're pretty outraged that a school district would suggest having the 10 commandments written on the wall at a school, but all good with an entire country run by sharia law that punishes conversion from Islam to another religion by death? Those are about equal to you?

And lol at "trying to resegregate". It was a district in Louisiana that the federal government closed a desegregation order from 1966 on because it was already deemed to have fully integrated 50 years ago and the judge died a few months before he was supposed to close it.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Israel deserves blame for sending the bombs, Palestine(Hamas) deserves blame for using children as human shields and Iran deserves blame for funding Hamas, the point is all 3 countries shares blame for the deaths you are putting entirely on Israel's shoulders.

Israel doesn't have millions of people who have escaped Israel because of the governments oppression on it's own people.

How fucking dumb do you gotta be to pretend that Iran is not the single most oppressive Islamic state there is ?

You're inventing a conversation we're not having. All I'm saying is Israel are the current world champions of child killing.

 

[scorpiorising]

None are evil. They just got stuck with religious and historical baggage. Both are sabotaging their own futures.

Oh look, someone speaks the actual truth and not one like.

Non Religious people can be horrible and psychopaths, but their isn't done bullshit religion telling someone that some dude 5 kilometers away is thr devil because he doesn't pray to the same monkey that you do.