Lyoto/ShogunWe all can acknowledge that Jones has regressed as a fighter. When many people believe that a fringe top 15 middleweight (Thiago Santos) beats you, and then Reyes almost beats you.. it is time to think that you're not what you used to be.
I would say Gustafsson is his best win? - a lengthy striker who was in his prime - unlike the opponents from Jones' first dozen UFC fights (with the exception of Bader) - he countered him, did better than anybody had done prior to this fight (except Hammill who beat Jones' elbows up with his face).
Jones has always been a poor striker with limited fundamentals and Gustafsson did well to exploit that. So, Jones had a sort of come-from-behind win.
DC was tailor-made for Jones to beat, a bad striker (mainly who generally has bad boxing) with slow footwork. DC does always pose a wrestling threat, but Jones length negated it.
But the majority of Jones' UFC wins have been against opponents with limited ability because LHW is weak, like HW is. Steroids could have always made his wins look more emphatic too...
Thoughts? It has to be Gustafsson, right?
I stopped reading at that point"Jones has always been a poor striker"
Vitor.
Got his arm broken but still managed to finish him
We all can acknowledge that Jones has regressed as a fighter. When many people believe that a fringe top 15 middleweight (Thiago Santos) beats you, and then Reyes almost beats you.. it is time to think that you're not what you used to be.
I would say Gustafsson is his best win? - a lengthy striker who was in his prime - unlike the opponents from Jones' first dozen UFC fights (with the exception of Bader) - he countered him, did better than anybody had done prior to this fight (except Hammill who beat Jones' elbows up with his face).
Jones has always been a poor striker with limited fundamentals and Gustafsson did well to exploit that. So, Jones had a sort of come-from-behind win.
DC was tailor-made for Jones to beat, a bad striker (mainly who generally has bad boxing) with slow footwork. DC does always pose a wrestling threat, but Jones length negated it.
But the majority of Jones' UFC wins have been against opponents with limited ability because LHW is weak, like HW is. Steroids could have always made his wins look more emphatic too...
Thoughts? It has to be Gustafsson, right?
Striking isn't all about offense, you know? His defense is usually terrible, he could have been much better were he to have moved away from Jackson and Winklejon. All of their strikers have the same problems.I stopped reading at that point
I didn't say that, but most of his opponents had no chance/were undersized. His career is similar to Anderson Silva's. He has beaten a lot of guys, but many of those guys you wouldn't consider to be the best: Rashad Evans, Machida, Shogun, Rampage, Belfort, Sonnen, OSP, Smith, Santos and now Reyes.He's fought the best of the best please don't try and say he has no wins over anyone notable just because of his recent bad performance
I appreciate you doubling down on this shit. It shows balls. Dumb as an oyster but ballsStriking isn't all about offense, you know? His defense is usually terrible, he could have been much better were he to have moved away from Jackson and Winklejon. All of their strikers have the same problems.
You can lie to yourself and say that Jones is an all-time great striker though.
Where are these mysterious Jones fans claiming Jone hasn't lost a step. That's right. They dont exist.... DeepJones lost his aura
his fans will do anything to try and avoid the truth