Who is currently the most athletic white boy in all major US Pro Sports?

[Madmick]

Stamina is athleticism.
Sure, guys like LeBron James and Cam Newton could greatly improve their endurance through training and nutrition, but they're never going to be Hicham El Guerrouj anymore than he's ever going to be them.

No. Stamina can be more easily trained to very high levels exceeding those required by soccer players (not the same as Olympic-class endurance sport athletes).

Soccer fans also tend to underestimate the conditional excellence of NBA players. The primary reason most soccer players have better endurance is due to a lower mass. When this is equalized, their advantage is almost entirely neutralized. For example, Rip Hamilton, who used to run an average of ~5 1/2 miles per game, ran sub-5 minute mile in high school. Allen Iverson allegedly broke the Philadelphia 76ers training camp record with a 4:42 mile. Dan Majerle, according to his own Central Michigan college teammates, ran a 4:35 mile back in the 80's. This is a man who is 6'6" tall and weighed 223 lbs in the NBA (1.98m, 101.2kg).

They're utter freaks: quicker, faster, more agile, more powerful, stronger, taller, heavier, with greater reach and bigger hands. They're athletically superior in virtually every possible way to soccer's best.

 

[codfather]

No. Stamina can be more easily trained to very high levels exceeding those required by soccer players (not the same as Olympic-class endurance sport athletes).

Soccer fans also tend to underestimate the conditional excellence of NBA players. The primary reason most soccer players have better endurance is due to a lower mass. When this is equalized, their advantage is almost entirely neutralized. For example, Rip Hamilton, who used to run an average of ~5 1/2 miles per game, ran sub-5 minute mile in high school. Allen Iverson allegedly broke the Philadelphia 76ers training camp record with a 4:42 mile. Dan Majerle, according to his own Central Michigan college teammates, ran a 4:35 mile back in the 80's. This is a man who is 6'6" tall and weighed 223 lbs in the NBA (1.98m, 101.2kg).

They're utter freaks: quicker, faster, more agile, more powerful, stronger, taller, heavier, with greater reach and bigger hands. They're athletically superior in virtually every possible way to soccer's best.

Soccer reject Giannis is considered the best/most athletic player in the NBA.
Soccer reject Adam Gemili has a 9.97s 100m time. Officially ratified by World Athletics, the global governing body of track and field. No BS, hand-timed, speculative marks like Wilt.
Kyle Rote Jr. was a soccer forward but never scored a single goal in international play.
He absolutely sucked and couldn't even nail down a starting spot on a fucking terrible Team USA.
He won Superstars 3 times.
All athletes from baseball, basketball, horse racing, golf, motorsports, ice hockey, tennis, combat sports, gymnastics, cross country, wrestling, cycling, volleyball and lacrosse COMBINED only won once.
310 lb+ guys like Shaq and Yao Ming are Hall of Famers, so endurance obviously isn't that important.
The talent pool in basketball, American football, baseball and ice hockey is miniscule compared to soccer.
I reckon there's a decent chance that the talent pool of all four combined is smaller.
The top decathlete has been recognized as "World's Greatest Athlete" since the 1912 Olympics, more than 108 years ago.
Guys like Jim Thorpe and Bruce Jenner are considered some of America's greatest athletes of all-time.
Kevin Mayer is easily the greatest decathlete in history and he's a blonde French guy who's listed as 6'1, 165 lbs.
He looks a hell of a lot more like a soccer player than an NBA/NFL player.
The French could easily play the game of "track and field isn't even popular in our country, imagine what our best athletes (i.e. soccer players) could do?"

 

[Madmick]

Soccer reject Giannis is considered the best/most athletic player in the NBA.
Kyle Rote Jr. was a soccer forward but never scored a single goal in international play.

Not only is the bit about Giannis wrong, but you've already undermined the argument that soccer is a sport that selects for athleticism. Meanwhile, there are numerous faster players who have succeeded in the NFL due to their speed.

Soccer reject Adam Gemili has a 9.97s 100m time. Officially ratified by World Athletics, the global governing body of track and field. No BS, hand-timed, speculative marks like Wilt.
He absolutely sucked and couldn't even nail down a starting spot on fucking terrible Team USA.
He won Superstars 3 times.
All athletes from baseball, basketball, horse racing, golf, motorsports, ice hockey, tennis, combat sports, gymnastics, cross country, wrestling, cycling, volleyball and lacrosse COMBINED only won once.

Superstars was a silly TV show that doesn't objectively measure athletic ability. Might as well talk about American Gladiator or Shaq Vs. These attributes are tested in things like sprints which shows adored superstars like Ronaldo to be incredibly slow-footed relative to NBA or NFL players.

310 lb+ guys like Shaq and Yao Ming are Hall of Famers, so endurance obviously isn't that important.

You'd be surprised at their anaerobic capacity, but there's a reason larger men player fewer minutes, and run much less.

The talent pool in basketball, American football, baseball and ice hockey is miniscule compared to soccer.
I reckon there's a decent chance that the talent pool of all four combined is smaller.
The top decathlete has been recognized as "World's Greatest Athlete" since the 1912 Olympics, more than 108 years ago.
Guys like Jim Thorpe and Bruce Jenner are considered some of America's greatest athletes of all-time.
Kevin Mayer is easily the greatest decathlete in history and he's a blonde French guy who's listed as 6'1, 165 lbs.
He looks a hell of a lot more like a soccer player than an NBA/NFL player.
The French could easily play the game of "track and field isn't even popular in our country, imagine what our best athletes (i.e. soccer players) could do?"

The Decathlon has been dominated by Americans for the last 70 years.

It's one of the most athletically demanding sports, but soccer players aren't winning it any more commonly than basketball or football players, because it has its own unique set of challenges and demands selecting a different specialization of athletic attributes. Guards from basketball and Receivers/Cornerbacks/Safeties from American football would do much better in it because soccer players are so physically weak in the upper body.

It tends to favor lighter, smaller men. Meanwhile, almost all the most popular strength and power sports in the world favor larger and more powerful men. In particular, the purest sports of all, combat sports, have to be handicapped because large men dominate smaller men so easily.

 

[codfather]

Not only is the bit about Giannis wrong, but you've already undermined the argument that soccer is a sport that selects for athleticism. Meanwhile, there are numerous faster players who have succeeded in the NFL due to their speed.

Superstars was a silly TV show that doesn't objectively measure athletic ability. Might as well talk about American Gladiator or Shaq Vs. These attributes are tested in things like sprints which shows adored superstars like Ronaldo to be incredibly slow-footed relative to NBA or NFL players.

You'd be surprised at their anaerobic capacity, but there's a reason larger men player fewer minutes, and run much less.

The Decathlon has been dominated by Americans for the last 70 years.

It's one of the most athletically demanding sports, but soccer players aren't winning it any more commonly than basketball or football players, because it has its own unique set of challenges and demands selecting a different specialization of athletic attributes. Guards from basketball and Receivers/Cornerbacks/Safeties from American football would do much better in it because soccer players are so physically weak in the upper body.

It tends to favor lighter, smaller men. Meanwhile, almost all the most popular strength and power sports in the world favor larger and more powerful men. In particular, the purest sports of all, combat sports, have to be handicapped because large men dominate smaller men so easily.

Strength/power sports aren't dominated by your BBC gods either, cuckboy...
Here are the weightlifting world records.
Here are the World's Strongest Man winners.
Here are the Rugby World Cup winners.
Here are the CrossFit Games champions.

 

[Madmick]

Strength/power sports aren't dominated by your BBC gods either, cuckboy...
Here are the weightlifting world records.
Here are the World's Strongest Man winners.
Here are the Rugby World Cup winners.
Here are the CrossFit Games champions.

You mistake "strength/power" sports to refer to only lifting sports. In S&C literature, you'll find that this term is typically used to refer to sports where strength & speed are the predominant two major biomotor abilities-- as opposed to endurance. This includes almost all the major sports which are favored for entertainment (ex. Football, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, Rugby, Cricket, Golf, Volleyball, Tennis, the glamour sports from Athletics like the 100m Sprint).

 

[Virtually Identical]

As of right now I’m going TJ Watt

 

[Madmick]

 

[Hanz_Blitz]

JJ Watt, he’s fallen off now but that man is one hell of a jacked white boy

 

[Fluffernutter]

No. Stamina can be more easily trained to very high levels exceeding those required by soccer players (not the same as Olympic-class endurance sport athletes).

Soccer fans also tend to underestimate the conditional excellence of NBA players. The primary reason most soccer players have better endurance is due to a lower mass. When this is equalized, their advantage is almost entirely neutralized. For example, Rip Hamilton, who used to run an average of ~5 1/2 miles per game, ran sub-5 minute mile in high school. Allen Iverson allegedly broke the Philadelphia 76ers training camp record with a 4:42 mile. Dan Majerle, according to his own Central Michigan college teammates, ran a 4:35 mile back in the 80's. This is a man who is 6'6" tall and weighed 223 lbs in the NBA (1.98m, 101.2kg).

They're utter freaks: quicker, faster, more agile, more powerful, stronger, taller, heavier, with greater reach and bigger hands. They're athletically superior in virtually every possible way to soccer's best.

Was EPO available at Central Michigan back in the early 80s?

 

[Madmick]

Was EPO available at Central Michigan back in the early 80s?

I wouldn't know.

 

[Krayt]

Who the fuck is that

Got to be the ugliest human being I've ever laid eyes upon

 

[Madmick]

Who the fuck is that

Got to be the ugliest human being I've ever laid eyes upon

A dude with an inferior vertical leap to the one I had by my sophomore year in high school at the exact same height.

 

[Armbars]

If you want to go a bit further than just US and also include WSM as a major sport I bring you:

oleksii novikov

Ive been watching WSM for fucking years and its pretty clear the new breed of Athletes that will dominate this sport are more agile and young. I expect this man to smash mariusz pudzianowski record of five when I look at the field.

 

[Rimbaud82]

Damn

 

[bjpenngoat]

Jordan kilganon. This guy is a freak.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Who the fuck is that

Got to be the ugliest human being I've ever laid eyes upon

Cristiano Ronaldo

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Soccer reject Giannis is considered the best/most athletic player in the NBA.
Soccer reject Adam Gemili has a 9.97s 100m time. Officially ratified by World Athletics, the global governing body of track and field. No BS, hand-timed, speculative marks like Wilt.
Kyle Rote Jr. was a soccer forward but never scored a single goal in international play.
He absolutely sucked and couldn't even nail down a starting spot on a fucking terrible Team USA.
He won Superstars 3 times.
All athletes from baseball, basketball, horse racing, golf, motorsports, ice hockey, tennis, combat sports, gymnastics, cross country, wrestling, cycling, volleyball and lacrosse COMBINED only won once.
310 lb+ guys like Shaq and Yao Ming are Hall of Famers, so endurance obviously isn't that important.
The talent pool in basketball, American football, baseball and ice hockey is miniscule compared to soccer.
I reckon there's a decent chance that the talent pool of all four combined is smaller.
The top decathlete has been recognized as "World's Greatest Athlete" since the 1912 Olympics, more than 108 years ago.
Guys like Jim Thorpe and Bruce Jenner are considered some of America's greatest athletes of all-time.
Kevin Mayer is easily the greatest decathlete in history and he's a blonde French guy who's listed as 6'1, 165 lbs.
He looks a hell of a lot more like a soccer player than an NBA/NFL player.
The French could easily play the game of "track and field isn't even popular in our country, imagine what our best athletes (i.e. soccer players) could do?"

That’s because sheer athleticism won’t get you very far in soccer. It’s not a sport based on athleticism like track is. Giannis or Adam Gemili couldn’t play baseball professionally either. Or golf. So what? Lol

and lmao at the tremendous stamina of soccer players. Omg they run 7 miles in 90 minutes with breaks. We have fatass cops in my department that will be relegated to desk duty if they can’t do that. It’s almost a walking pace.

Soccer takes a tremendous amount of skill. So do golf and MMA and snooker. Soccer takes a bit of athleticism but nothing like basketball or football or decathlon or something.

 

[Madmick]

That’s because sheer athleticism won’t get you very far in soccer. It’s not a sport based on athleticism like track is. Giannis or Adam Gemili couldn’t play baseball professionally either. Or golf. So what? Lol

and lmao at the tremendous stamina of soccer players. Omg they run 7 miles in 90 minutes with breaks. We have fatass cops in my department that will be relegated to desk duty if they can’t do that. It’s almost a walking pace.

Soccer takes a tremendous amount of skill. So do golf and MMA and snooker. Soccer takes a bit of athleticism but nothing like basketball or football or decathlon or something.

Don't forget it's actually ~94 minutes gametime due to injury time.

A brisk 13 1/2 minute mile pace.

 

[HydraCap3]

TJ Watt