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Who has/had most aggressive grappling style?

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  1. Levstar White Belt

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    Hi guys

    Who, in your opinion, has the most aggressive/smashing
    grappling style? I guess I mean by this someone who has a heavy top game, strong takedowns, basically treats grappling as a fight and not a match.

    I admire the old Carlson style- and know many of the old Carlson guys like Liborio and others had/have a tough style. Not a fan so much of the modern developments like Berimbolo, inverted guard, butt scoots etc

    I guess this is a BJJ specific question but is also open to other grappling arts- judo,
    wrestling etc

    Judo wise I rate Muneta, Yoshida, most of the Russians!

    All the sambo guys seem to have an aggressive
    style too

    Karelin goes without saying used to smash people to pieces from what I've seen
     
  2. Deltafarce Green Belt

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    Renzo always seemed very aggressive to me
     
  3. Ice 9 Cobra Black Belt

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    I don't think you have to be a top player to be aggressive..
     
  4. ThatBJJGuy Brown Belt

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    name some aggressive bottom finishers then?
     
  5. Dirty Holt Black Belt Professional Fighter

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    BJJ - Manny Gamburyan is pretty aggressive. Buchecha.

    Wrestling - Hands down its 2 teammates from Iran Noroozi and Abdevali, Olympic/world champs.
     
  6. Ianblastermaste White Belt

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    The way I look at it, most grappling arts treat a match like a fight, except for most BJJ practitioners. As a wrestler, I like to use other wrestlers as examples. In wrestling, if you aren't aggresive, you aren't good. I think most BJJers are of the mentality that a match is a chess match and that technique prevails the most, but unlike chess, not everything is black and white (awful joke, I know). I think that situations are treated as different scenes, without recognizing the space in between those scenes. I'm wrestling and sambo particularly, there are some wicked scrambles and doing anything to prevail, whereas in teh jits I think that when you are in a position, you just think from that position as opposed to thinking about a long term goal. Just my 2 cents. I think Jesse Delgado and Ben Askren are good examples of aggressive wrestlers. I also think that inverting and other sport techniques are benificial to and aggressive style.
     
  7. BJJArsenal Brown Belt

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    Cyborg, Cavaca, Keenan, Braulio

    there's loads
     
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    Why?
     
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    You don't rate Muneta Yasuyuki?

     
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    Some blue belt you've never heard of who loses positions all the time because he does dumb stuff like try to pass without addressing opponents grips or goes for finishes before he establishes his position.
     
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    He is awesome! But I guess I am just curious why a heavy top game, strong takedown and fight not play criteria reduces aggressiveness to just muneta, yoshida and all russians :icon_neut
    As I see it, almost all top level judoka are fighters not players and have good takedowns, satisfying two criteria. Then if you whittle the list to those who don't shy from newaza you would get strong top players by default. This would all result in a rather inclusive list than an exclusive one like above.

    Maybe I am reading too much into this...
     
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    Travis luter
     
  13. Leify Ebb and Flow

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    The obvious BJJ answer is Rodolfo.
     
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    Mark Kerr, Ricardo Arona, Sak,
     
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    If I accept your definition of "aggressive" as gospel (I don't, but I don't feel like launching a large side discussion), then for me Rodolfo and Galvao are really strong contenders for #1.
     
  16. SuperSuperRambo Steel Belt

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    I don't know why people act like those things imply aggression. Just like people act in MMA that fighters who prefer to strike are necessarily aggressive. Plenty of top position grapplers were slow as hell and stalled out wins, primarily because of good takedowns and a heavy top game. But rest assured, they're not treating grappling as a fight.

    By the way, if you want to treat grappling as a fight, I would suggest actually fighting.
     
  17. Drew Foster Silver Belt

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    He said aggressive, not finishers, although like BJJArsenal said, there are lots of good bottom finishers out there.
     
  18. otwobjj White Belt

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    I always though DJ Jackson has a wrestlers constant forward pressure type of style.
     
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    Not if you're any good.
     
  20. SuperSuperRambo Steel Belt

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    Yep, pretty much. But if he's facing someone with better takedowns, he.... *gasp*... also does the berimbolo.
     

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