Who does Jacare beat comfortably in the UFC?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by mauricesmithfan, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. mauricesmithfan

    mauricesmithfan Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    925
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Jumanji
    I think that Jacare will be a mid-tier fighter in the UFC at best though he is good. He's a bit undersized. I think he loses to the bispings weidmans and belforts of the division. I think he beats the okamis, belchers, phillipou and belows.

    Like to see him vs. Lombard to see where he's at.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Viper98

    Viper98 GSP Fan

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,576
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jacare undersized?
    He cut weight to get to 194 for Saturday
     
  3. CosmicOsmo

    CosmicOsmo Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    2,852
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ed Herman was a mid-teir fighter in the UFC, and we saw what Jacare did to him. Okami, Belcher and Phillipou are all current/former top 10 and title contenders, and Weidman, Bisping and Belfort are all top 5, so what you're really saying is he'd be somewhere in the middle of the top 10? That would almost certainly equate to a title shot at some point in the UFC, and that's definitely upper-teir in my book.
     
  4. FrankWank

    FrankWank Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    197
    Location:
    Fiji
    A lot of guys
     
  5. Arkridge

    Arkridge Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2010
    Messages:
    21,612
    Likes Received:
    40,019
    Location:
    San Jose
    He could work his way to a title shot. Amazing BJJ, and always improving striking and wrestling. He's a strong guy too.
     
  6. Ippowned

    Ippowned Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2010
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    19
    Location:
    Yurup
    jake shields ducked him in strikeforce all those years.. i kind of want to see that happen. jake shields can make anyone look bad on the ground, and can make the fight ugly, but jacare should beat him decisively.

    demian maia went to welterweight, but i'd LOVE to see him go back to middleweight to fight jacare!
     
  7. BJ@LW&WW

    [email protected]&WW Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    20,794
    Likes Received:
    5,251
    Location:
    LA
    I don't think he could do that to jacare. and I don't he's gonna be the one winning the take downs either.
     
  8. aquamanpunch

    aquamanpunch Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    14,360
    Likes Received:
    164
    Location:
    Charlotte
    mid-tier at best? come on now.
     
  9. Jinn

    Jinn *** Kicker

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2002
    Messages:
    1,710
    Likes Received:
    190
    Beating Okami doesn't make you mid-level. As someone else said, Ed Herman was a mid-level UFC MW and Jacare ran right through him. I'm also not convinced he would lose to the 3 guys you mentioned. Bisping has struggled against much weaker opponents than Jacare and Belfort has little to offer if he can't put you away in the 1st round. Weidman could probably do to him what he did to Maia albeit it wouldn't be as one-sided because Jacare is a better striker than Maia as well as faster and more powerful.
     
  10. melvinj0

    melvinj0 Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    20,349
    Likes Received:
    15,857
    Very excited to see him in the UFC, not entirely sure how he will do but I have a good feeling he will at least be top 10. I think his destruction of Ed Herman shows that he will probably man handle anyone outside of the top 10.
     
  11. alkapwn1

    alkapwn1 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2011
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canadia
    I'd absolutely kill to see Souza vs Maia. Would kind of be a super fight in it's own way...

    I would also like to see Souza vs Okami and shields, and idk who else so far. Paul Harris maybe?
     
  12. bbman182

    bbman182 Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2007
    Messages:
    5,034
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Anybody but bisping, weidman, or silva IMO
     
  13. BJ@LW&WW

    [email protected]&WW Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    20,794
    Likes Received:
    5,251
    Location:
    LA
    Jeeze. Bisping is so ridiculously overrated.
     
  14. differentday

    differentday Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,764
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Stockholm, Sweden
    I would say anyone who can't defend his take downs.
     
  15. Viper98

    Viper98 GSP Fan

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,576
    Likes Received:
    0
    People have been dickriding him hard lately for some reason
     
  16. CosmicOsmo

    CosmicOsmo Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    2,852
    Likes Received:
    1
    To answer the question, here's how I think he'd do against Sherdog's current top 10:

    1. Anderson Silva

    Jacare's style is probably the most dangerous for Silva. Nobody at MW can strike with Silva, it's the wrong strategy to even try. Strong takedowns and excellent BJJ are the best shot, which make Jacare (and Weidman) the best matches. I think Jacare still probably loses this fight more often than he wins, but at least he has a conceivable path to victory, which is more than can be said about most of the division. Doesn't matter though, they probably won't fight.

    2. Chael Sonnen

    Jacare beats Sonnen handily. Think Sonnen-Maia.

    3. Chris Weidman

    Who knows how this would turn out, I'd love to see this fight down the road some time. If would probably be decided on the feet, where both are green but improving so fast in every fight that it's hard to call.

    4. Michael Bisping

    This would be one of the toughest fights for Jacare. I don't like Bisping at all but his TD defense is impeccable and he'd outpoint Jacare on the feet.

    5. Mark Mu
     
  17. melvinj0

    melvinj0 Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    20,349
    Likes Received:
    15,857
    Mostly because its been a while since he has been dominated. Sure Chael beat him but many people think Bisping won that fight, once Bisping gets KTFO'd by Belfort people will back off his shit for a while. But he will most likely develop another win streak over some decent-good guys and get more hype around him again.
     
  18. Viper98

    Viper98 GSP Fan

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,576
    Likes Received:
    0
    Throw bisping in against cung Le so he can get his head kicked off next
     
  19. Diet Otsuka

    Diet Otsuka Red Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2009
    Messages:
    8,338
    Likes Received:
    700
    I would like to see him vs Brunson.
     
  20. CosmicOsmo

    CosmicOsmo Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    2,852
    Likes Received:
    1
    What did Brunson do to you that you would wish that fate on him a second time?
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.