Who could beat jones? Who could beat cormier?

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  1. KJE416

    KJE416 Orange Belt

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    I believe both of these guys are very dominant and champ worthy fighters. But for whoever becomes champ tomorrow, who will give them problems?
    I'll start with my list:

    Jones:
    Cormier
    Gustaffson
    ......

    Cormier:
    Jones
    Gustaffson
    ......

    DAMN they are both so good I don't know who else.

    Do you???
     
  2. cocksure

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    Cormier wouldn't struggle with Gustaffson, the way Jones did.
     
  3. 7437

    7437 Gold Belt

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    Havent really seen Cormier or Gus fight a ton of ranked guys. Very possible that many could give them trouble.

    As for Jones, we know for sure that Gus can put up a great fight.
     
  4. choke you

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    Rumble vs jones could be interesting I think Alex beats him though
     
  5. EJRMAN513

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    I think Gus is a harder match-up for Cormier than Jones, win or lose tomorrow.
     
  6. KJE416

    KJE416 Orange Belt

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    Rumble is capable of knocking them both out but we all know what happens when you get rumble down. Hard to believe koscheck beat him
     
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    Wouldn't put Cormier in the same category as Jones or Gus. I think those two are like Cain and JDS at HW a year or so ago. There's those two, and then there's everyone else.

    I also think Rumble Johnson could beat Cormier, he shrugged off any wrestling stuff from Phil Davis like it was nothing and nearly took his head off with punches several times. I'd expect a Cormier fight to go the same way.
     
  8. Moneymma

    Moneymma Brown Belt

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    GUS beat jones,also rumble and davis would have solid shot
    DC idk
     
  9. Hendo101

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    Gus can beat both men.

    Cormier can beat both men.
     
  10. KR811**

    KR811** Blue Belt

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    Jones:
    Cormier
    Gus
    Rumble
    His brothers
    JDS
    Velasquez

    Cormier:
    Jones
    Velasquez
    JDS
     
  11. SideKickPro24

    SideKickPro24 Blue Belt

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    ummmmm. The phil davis fight took away any concerns I had about rumble's TDD.
     
  12. Got GOAT

    Got GOAT Banned Banned

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    You're sure? Who has Cormier fought with that kind of boxing, speed and length/reach? With that kind of footwork? He's fought nobody like Gustafsson because there is nobody like him at HW or LHW. Gustafsson arguably has the best jab in MMA, has solid knockout power, the best boxing at LHW and higher in the UFC, great TDD, a granite chin, great footwork, and speed for days (hands and feet). He utilizes a lot of lateral movement which is hard for many wrestlers to deal with because they'll try and shoot while the other is still stepping all over the place. Cormier gets inside pretty well but that's been against much slower fighters without the distance control / control of range that Gustafsson has shown in his last two fights. Cormier isn't really one to take a shot from far outside, it's usually in close boxing range to clinch range, but he'll likely have some of the same problems trying to grab a leg that Jones did. He may eat some nasty strikes on the way in too (front kick to the chin/face, cross, jab, knee etc).
     
  13. machidafan99

    machidafan99 Silver Belt

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    I think Weidman would have a good shot at both if he went up a class.
     
  14. Got GOAT

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    So do I, but right now there's plenty of talent and shit that needs sorted out at LHW with Jon, Alex, Daniel and Anthony/Rumble.
     
  15. machidafan99

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    I think DC would beat those guys with ease.

     

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