Whittaker/Romero 2: Round 4

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I’m guessing everyone is in agreement that Whittaker won the first two rounds.

It’s pretty clear that Yoel won 3 and 5.

Re-watching the fight, I honestly can’t see any way that Whittaker won the fourth.

He was the aggressor for the first minute, but he wasn’t very active—threw mostly leg kicks that didn’t have much power, and the occasional strike to the head that were mostly blocked. Then, for the next thirty seconds or so, Whittaker picks up the pace with body kicks and leg kicks—the most significant shot was the one to the nuts.

That’s the first minute and a half or so.

After the break, Romero comes out stronger and becomes the aggressor. It’s pretty even in most of the exchanges, with Whittaker landing heavier kicks, but Romero landing better punches.

As the round progresses, Whittaker is throwing more punches, but they are mostly blocked. Romero isn’t throwing as much, but he is clearly landing at least as many punches, and they’re clearly landing with more force.

There is a good bit of back and forth, but as it continues, Romero gets better and better. In the closing minute and a half, he’s stalking a retreating Whittaker for the most part—Whittaker is getting shots in, but it’s clear that Romero is pushing the action and getting the better of the exchanges.

I’d even be willing to say that the round is too close to call until with 20 seconds left Romero clocks Whittaker hard and puts him on wobbly legs. For the final 20 seconds, Whittaker is basically running away from Romero while throwing defensive kicks and punches just to keep the distance. Romero still gets him with two more hard shots before the bell rings.

So for those of you who scored it for Whittaker: what did you see and what did I miss?
 
I thought Yoel won the last 3 rounds as well.

Had Robert rocked in each round, and nearly killed him in the 5th.
 
Winning :30 of a round does not win you around unless you hurt a guy badly enough that you almost finish him

Yoel landed some good shots but Whittaker was up and moving and won the entire round up to that point. It was clearly his round

Fight was a draw btw
 
Its like some fans only watch when someone is rocked. Theyre on their phones the other times or making shit threads on sherdog to know any better.

Whittaker won 4:30 minutes of round 4. He was hurt, but Whittaker moved away and ended the round on his feet. He won the round.
 
I mean you have your own Yoel spin on it but you said it yourself.

Others have too. 4:30 of the 5:00 round belonged to Robert. Sometimes the last few seconds of a round can make an impression on a judge.

But they don't have to. And the Judges are not obligated to allow them to.
 
I saw Romero winning by a small margin, but you have the guy hurt and almost out and he tries to win the round when he had a good chance to finish it, a close fight like this has no undisputed winner in my eyes. Romero should have went for the finish instead of wrestling him...
 
Yeah that's what I've been saying. The only significant part of that round was when Romero rocked him and whittakers legs went out. That whole fight was bs. How did mike Jackson get a 10-8 for nothing and yoel didn't get one in a round where he knocked Whittaker down, took him down three times and almost finished him?
 
I thought Yoel won the last 3 rounds as well.

Had Robert rocked in each round, and nearly killed him in the 5th.
Even if Yoel won only rounds 3 and 5 which is obvious.

Round 5 was a 10-8. so at worse it should be a draw.

It wasn't highway robbery but it was pretty bad.
 
I think any score from 10-9 Whittaker to 10-9 Romero is acceptable for the 4th round. Personally, I'd give it a 10-10, but if I had to attribute a 10-9 to someone, it would be Romero's. The scoring criterion that takes precedence is effective striking and Romero's shots did way more impact and damage than Whittaker's.

People claiming the 5th round wasn't a 10-8 are just too emotionally invested in the fight, though.
 
Ya I don't see how Romero wins Rd4. He landed like 3 good punches, no knockdown... lost clearly the first 4:30 of the round.

Clear as can be.

Also don't see 5th as 10-8 but, close.
 
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I scored it for Whittaker live. Didn’t watch it a second time.

It was close. But I’d give Romero a 10-8 in round 5 before I gave him round 4.

But idk. I was pretty drunk. Maybe I’d change my mind sober.
 
Yoel fucked him up.
Right now Whotaker is lying in a bed all fucked up. Thats a bad mofo to endure all that, but Robert whotaker knows he lost.
 
Even if Yoel won only rounds 3 and 5 which is obvious.

Round 5 was a 10-8. so at worse it should be a draw.

It wasn't highway robbery but it was pretty bad.

If the last round was a 10-8? The first two rounds were a 10-8 for Robert. Yoel did *nothing*.
 
Winning :30 of a round does not win you around unless you hurt a guy badly enough that you almost finish him

Yoel landed some good shots but Whittaker was up and moving and won the entire round up to that point. It was clearly his round

Fight was a draw btw

But he won much more than 30 seconds of the round.

Whittaker won the first minute and a half—but not much happened during that time.

After the nut shot it was pretty even for the most part—with Romero pushing the pace, and Whittaker countering well.

Yoel dominated the final 20 seconds.

So if you really wanted to just break it down just by time— Romero won 2 minutes of the 4th and Whittaker won 3 minutes. But the 20 seconds of domination more than made up for that one minute difference.
 
I’m guessing everyone is in agreement that Whittaker won the first two rounds.

It’s pretty clear that Yoel won 3 and 5.

Re-watching the fight, I honestly can’t see any way that Whittaker won the fourth.

He was the aggressor for the first minute, but he wasn’t very active—threw mostly leg kicks that didn’t have much power, and the occasional strike to the head that were mostly blocked. Then, for the next thirty seconds or so, Whittaker picks up the pace with body kicks and leg kicks—the most significant shot was the one to the nuts.

That’s the first minute and a half or so.

After the break, Romero comes out stronger and becomes the aggressor. It’s pretty even in most of the exchanges, with Whittaker landing heavier kicks, but Romero landing better punches.

As the round progresses, Whittaker is throwing more punches, but they are mostly blocked. Romero isn’t throwing as much, but he is clearly landing at least as many punches, and they’re clearly landing with more force.

There is a good bit of back and forth, but as it continues, Romero gets better and better. In the closing minute and a half, he’s stalking a retreating Whittaker for the most part—Whittaker is getting shots in, but it’s clear that Romero is pushing the action and getting the better of the exchanges.

I’d even be willing to say that the round is too close to call until with 20 seconds left Romero clocks Whittaker hard and puts him on wobbly legs. For the final 20 seconds, Whittaker is basically running away from Romero while throwing defensive kicks and punches just to keep the distance. Romero still gets him with two more hard shots before the bell rings.

So for those of you who scored it for Whittaker: what did you see and what did I miss?
Whittaker outlanded him soundly before he was hurt. But he was noticeable wobbled so I could see this round as a 10-10 if not a 10-9 Yoel but its close fore sure.
 
I agree yoel won the 4th and the 5th was 10-8 if ever there was a 10-8

Romero won that fight and even Whitaker knows it
 
But he won much more than 30 seconds of the round.

Whittaker won the first minute and a half—but not much happened during that time.

After the nut shot it was pretty even for the most part—with Romero pushing the pace, and Whittaker countering well.

Yoel dominated the final 20 seconds.

So if you really wanted to just break it down just by time— Romero won 2 minutes of the 4th and Whittaker won 3 minutes. But the 20 seconds of domination more than made up for that one minute difference.

Nahhh he got clearly outlanded and Whittaker actually landed the majority of the better shots until the final flurry, which wobbled Whittaker for a second but never put him down or had him close to being stopped at all

I'm sorry man but your memory of the round just isn't right, you gotta watch it again

Whittaker landed a couple big head kicks and a big kick to the knee before the break. Right off the break Whittaker lands about 5 jabs clean as can be all in a row and Yoel doesn't connect with a single strike for at least a minute. We're halfway through the round now, all Whittaker. With 2:10 left Yoel lands a nice right hook to the body, his first meaningful strike of the round. Whittaker lands a left hook and a one two with his broken hand. Romero hasn't thrown for almost another :30 as we get to the final minute. Commentary was awful last night but they even say "Yoel is taking this round off and conserving for round 5" which he really obviously was. :30 left and the strikes are 32-6 for Whittaker. Romero lands a counter hook when Whittaker tries to throw an elbow like it was a hand. Whittaker charges forward with a combo and gets blasted. Stumbles around a bit but recovers. Yoel blasts him with another right, misses a combo and the round ends

Fightmetric has total strikes at 34-20 for Whittaker although I gotta tell you 20 strikes seems really high for Yoel

To break the round into pieces

Before the cup shot: Neither man does much of anything. Whittaker constantly head kicks to Romero's blind eye and lands a couple of them. Whittaker lands a couple jabs

After the cup shot: Whittaker lands a ton of jabs, couple good kicks. Romero barely throws anything until around 2:00 and even then Whittaker is throwing more volume and outlanding him by a big margin

Romero decides to start throwing: Catches Whittaker with 3 punches over the final :30 seconds. Staggers him with one gigantic shot and has him wobbled but Whittaker recovers and is ok enough to avoid the follow up

Romero mostly took the round off to conserve energy for the 5th. He landed one huge shot that hurt Whittaker, but didn't do much else, while Whittaker picked away with jabs and kicks but couldn't land anything that hurt Romero

Both guys injuries were huge factors in this round, Whittaker landed a ton of jabs and some headkicks that Romero absolutely didn't see at all because of his eye, but he couldn't land anything to hurt Yoel with his hand broken, couldn't force Yoel to back off without that power, and got countered trying to throw an elbow which would have been an overhand if his hand wasn't mashed potatoes
 
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