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Whittaker has a case to to be #2 greatest MW ever

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  1. pankrat Black Belt

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    Adesanya and Whittaker fought a handful of common opponents at MW, all legit and not far removed from their prime:

    Romero
    Gastelum
    Brunson
    Tavares

    > Whittaker shows to be the slighly superior fighter based on those fights, imo. Besides,

    Adesnaya - Costa (KO), Vettori (SD)
    Whittaker - Jacare (KO), Till, Canonier, Hall, Natal (UD)

    I guess if Israel defends his tittle vs Whittaker and makes it look easy again I'll be hard to deny Adesanya's superior greatness.
    If Bobby gets his revenge, there will be no discussion leff about who is the best behind Silva.

    Whittaker MW record is not far from Anderson Silva at this point. Their top10 wins list in terms of caliber of competition is pretty even imo, Silva a better finisher.
     
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  2. I expect their 2nd fight to go differently than the 1st. Some of Adesanya's weaknesses have been exposed and those aren't things you will have fixed one fight later. The path to Whittaker's victory is by using a lot of movement and diverse striking just for setting up his takedowns and making it an ugly grappling match. Rob now also knows he needs to respect Adesanya's striking/power, so he won't be lunging in the way he did before. He needs to outwrestle Izzy, because he won't be able to outstrike him in a 5 round fight. If he keeps his ego in check and is able to secure takedowns, he was a way to win. That said, still a very tough fight/matchup for Whittaker. Adesanya will be (rightfully so) the heavy favourite.
     
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    Silva is a drug cheat he cant be goat sorry
     
  4. Straatblaffer Brown Belt

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    That's ur opinion
     
  5. Jeff Goldblum69 Brown Belt

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    Its funny how fast his legacy has crumbled
     
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  6. pankrat Black Belt

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    Cool thanks for the input
     
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    No he doesn’t. Good fighter but this is a typical “x fighter won last night, hes the GOAT” thread.
     
  8. TheBulge Green Belt

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    It's tough to be ranked above a guy who beat you so thoroughly. Him and Adesanya have a similar resume but Whittaker really has to get atleast 1 win back in that matchup if he ever wants to be 2nd best MW ever.
     
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    Facts
     
  10. The Rivv Robert Whittaker’s Simp. Banned

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    Nah man not quite yet. If he beats Izzy or loses but continues stay as the #1 contender he could have a better case.

    Or he could go to Sherdog’s beloved Bellator and if he snags the Middleweight strap he’s going to get the Moose type cult around him.
     
  11. pankrat Black Belt

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    Whittakers record at MW is way superior than Israel at this point, did better vs common opponents too
     
  12. Wreckless Purple Belt

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    Why are people so obsessed with GOAT talks after every event?
     
  13. The Rivv Robert Whittaker’s Simp. Banned

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    I get that but his title reign leaves a lot to be desired. And title retention is a big factor when considering the best UFC middleweight ever. That and since Izzy has a win over him makes me think this won’t catch on.

    I love the guy I’m quite literally his simp. But in terms of realistically estimating how this will go down with Sherbros, I can’t say I think they’ll latch on.
     
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  14. BFoe Western States Heritage Champion Platinum Member

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    He definitely does not. Sherdog is ridiculous sometimes. Whitaker beats a dude who’s lost 3 of his last 4, and suddenly he should be ranked all time above Silva, Hendo, Mousasi, Franklin, Belfort... wtf.
     
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    Because it’s a holdover from boxing culture.
     
  16. Hellowhosthat Gold Belt

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    He was already above most of these guys at MW. His resume Vs Franklin's resume frankly isn't comparable.
     
  17. Volador Black Belt

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    As of right now, no he doesn't. You can't just ignore their fight against each other, with a belt on the line too, and the fact that at least one of the Romero fights was controversial. If he beats Adesanya, then yes. As of now, he's top 5 or 10 for sure.
     
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  18. daniel san Black Belt

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    Brunson and Tavares aren’t great wins, Gastelum is a decent mid tier win. Romero is a great win though. But yeah I think Whittaker has a case for a #2 ranking after Silva, Adesanya is still to new in the game to claim the #1 or #2 position.
     
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    He's up there if he can win that mw strap
     
  20. Zebra Cheeks Sweet Cheeks Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yeah, not to mention until he beats Izzy he can’t even be ranked above him.
     

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