Social White Evangelicals See Trump as Their Savior?

[SammyJar88]

This is a man who has used greed and material wealth to exalt power over others for his entire life, and has openly admitted to cheating on his pregnant wife with a porn star, then tried to pay her off. These are facts, not opinion.

The minute that came out and Christians didn't care, I knew that the moral argument was gone. It just doesn't matter anymore.

It doesn't matter what Trump's done in the past when he's doing what most Christians want him to do as President. Trump cares about making his supporters happy. It doesn't matter why he's being an extremely pro-Christian President when it comes down to it. Maybe he's changed, or maybe he's just smart enough to keep the people who got him elected happy. You aren't going to be able to get most Christians to change their minds about Trump when the only alternative is the democrat party that has went way too far to the left, and has gotten so fucking weird it's disgusting.

I was raised as a Christian that's very different from organized religion. I was taught that reincarnation was taken out of the bible, and I'm sure it was since there were over 35 books before a power struggle in the religion within 40 years. We know they removed that your soul existed before birth. I think there's a lot of wisdom to found in a lot of religions, and ancient text, but I think all organized religion has been corrupted by man to some degree over the centuries. I was taught it was good to question God. I'm not going to pretend I have all the answers, or don't have any doubt, but I believe God is much different than what many think. I think praying is used to ask questions and seek guidance, and fasting, or isolating yourself for a few days as you seek those answers can help. You usually gain knowledge and answers when you ask for it. It may just be a natural process of finding answers to problems that's all in your head, but I think it's what most people mean when they say they talk to God. God is nothing like humans, and he doesn't talk to you like a person. He's an energy force that's very alien to us in my opinion. I think it's very complicated, and I don't believe anyone has all the answers. I don't think there's any conflict between science and spirituality. A lot of people have left organized religion, but haven't necessarily given up on religion or spirituality altogether. There's no hypocrisy in what I believe and supporting Trump, and it's not the stories for me, but I know enough about those stories and how they're viewed by many Christians to understand why they support Trump.

The democrat party has become a pro-abortion and pro-infanticide party that push it, and then wear it as a badge of honor. They push a transgender agenda that's anti-women, and promotes child abuse on the same level as pedophilia in many cases. Christians aren't stupid. They know it's Trump or the democrat party, and that's an easy choice for most. I still don't necessarily trust Mike Pence on several issues, and I think he would be a weak candidate in 2024 no matter what. The democrat party hoped Christians would turn on Trump for the much weaker Pence, but that didn't happen, and it's not going to happen. Most Americans are harder to manipulate these days.

 

[SammyJar88]

You don't even have to explain all that away, the reasoning here is good enough without grasping for biblical analogies or taking morality into consideration.

The FedSoc and ADF are both incredibly powerful and influential institutions that'll always have your back, buddy.

The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, most frequently called the Federalist Society, is an organization of conservatives and libertarians that advocates for a textualist and originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution. Founded in 1982, it is one of the nation's most influential legal organizations.

Politico Magazine wrote that the Federalist Society "has become one of the most influential legal organizations in history—not only shaping law students' thinking but changing American society itself by deliberately, diligently shifting the country's judiciary to the right."

In January 2019, The Washington Post Magazine wrote that the Federalist Society had reached an "unprecedented peak of power and influence." Of the nine members of the Supreme Court of the United States, five (Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, John Roberts, and Samuel Alito) are current or former members of the organization.

Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, marriage and family." ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona and runs the Center for Academic Freedom.

Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country, and has been described as "the 800-pound gorilla of the Christian right". It has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.

ADF's formal support for anti-sodomy laws dates to at least 2003, before the Supreme Court made its landmark decision in Lawrence v. Texas. ADF filed an amicus brief in the case, defending state laws criminalizing consensual same-sex activity and spent nearly 30 pages arguing in favor of upholding it. In 2011, ADF senior counsel Kevin Theriot wrote that "a legal right to engage in homosexual behavior comes at the cost of religious freedom."[1][2][3][4][5]

Y'all should really be thanking Mitch too, he put in the work to make all of this possible long before Trump took office. Congrats, I guess?

I don't need the biblical analogies to support Trump. I've supported him since 2015 without ever feeling the need to justify how I could support him to myself or others. The stories are well known within Christianity. If Trump is doing what Christians believe is God's work that's all they care about for obvious reasons.