white belt kept slamming me

[GBlutador]

so this dude came to train from another school from across the state, he asked me to roll and i have a very slow technical style. he is one of those spazy dudes that wrestled in highschool, anyway

from our knees i usually wait on my butt till my partner engages, in guard this dude kept giving me mini slams (not cool) i asked him to stop and he apologized, but a minute later when i slapped on the triangle he did it again. i had that really good agnle where i was grabing his leg and he tried to slam me again (wich he couldnt) and he stated to tap...... the first thing in my head was put this mother fucker to sleep, i probly waited 1.5 second after he tapped to let go but i was super heated.

my professor wasnt there but my friends were saying i should have put him to sleep. i dont want to do anything stupid to jepordize my academy's name but god damn i was so close. as i said my prof. was not there and i havnt got a chance to talk to him yet, but my question to you guys is, what would you have done? was i too soft? should i have verbally abused him at least (lol).

 

[awkwardpenguin]

atleast yes if he kept doing this give him 2 warnings he does it again everythings fair game. Well not everything...

 

[billdog]

shoulda just dealt with it and choked his ass out

 

[judogido]

He's a new guy.

He's nervous and keen to prove himself, so he does not really understand the etiquette.

It's the responsibility of every senior grade to make sure a new member is made welcome, made safe, not aboused and told what the correct behavious is.

Retaliation is not usually the correct response.

Explaining in a friendly and relaxed manner that is is considered "bad manners" to do this to try and escape from that position. Also - you need to offer an alternative, rather than just telling him what NOT to do.

This way you also teach him how a senior grade is supposed to behave when HE gets to that level and so create a culture in the club where everyone looks after junior grades.

 

[GBlutador]

ya i feel you but he wasnt that new. he had stripes and i know his school doesnt give them out really fast. i mean he had enough technuiqe to where i could tell he been training at least 6 months

 

[billdog]

judogi's advice is best, he sounds like our student rich who just got his black belt (very well mannered guy)

yea i guess choking out a new guy even if he has prior experience is a bit extreme

 

[FLoWitheGo**]

IMO I think that the whole situation sounds a little exaggerated. It was probably his first class in bjj and was excited. If the roll was really that bad just walk away from it. It should never reach the point where you want to put someone to sleep. This isn't the adcc or mundials, your at practice and that is your potential teammate. You should be considerate of that especially if your a higher belt representing your school, especially if your teacher isn't there. And BTW, to call wrestlers spazzes is not cool. He's coming from a very different style of grappling. Wrestling live rolls aren't slow rolls BUT ITS NOT SPAZZING OUT, its just as technical as bjj.

 

[judogido]

judogi's advice is best, he sounds like our student rich who just got his black belt (very well mannered guy)

That is definitely not me - I'm actually a real pr*ck in real life..... :icon_chee

 

[Calibur]

I would have put him to sleep. It's not the right thing to do, but it's definitely what I would have done. Fawk, I might have even gone further than that. You don't "accidentally" pick someone and slam someone after being specifically told not to.

 

[SpunK238]

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[thecreator]

Holding onto a submission after the tap during training is never cool.

 

[Jagcorps_esq]

Holding onto a submission after the tap during training is never cool.

Agreed. I'll choke someone out for refusing to tap....but I'm not dishonoring the tap. That needs to remain pretty sacred if training is to remain safe.

 

[GBlutador]

You're allowed to roll at your academy without any supervision? Where was your instructor?

I don't know how threads like this keep getting made, it shouldn't even be an issue! If your instructor isn't there to stop such stupid behaviour then there should be other senior memeber who do, otherwise I wouldn't even train there...

a brown belt was running class but he was on the side helping new people with technuiqe, maybe i should have stated before, ive met this dude before he knows me due to same school affiliation, at a seminar he asked me to roll about 5 months ago but i was sore and said no thanks maybe he wanted to prove himslef i guess

ALSO i dont condone such behavior but when your sparring and shit escalates it was hard for me to just stop and give advice...im not perfect, im stilll growing as a bjj practitioner and as a person.

 

[lechien]

When you said you got mini slammed?

How high are you talking about?

 

[lethalazn]

You should respect the tap, if you beat him and he knows you're boss...NOW is the time to tell him what he should or shouldn't do

 

[platfox]

Gotta respect the tap. You did the right thing.

Wrestlers never want to tap, especially new ones. Actually I shouldn't stereotype all wrestlers so I'll say that the ones I've come across treat every roll like a match. Especially the ones that are there to supplement their wrestling when wrestling is off-season. They aren't there to learn, they're usually there to keep from getting rusty.

 

[RemyR]

He's a new guy.

He's nervous and keen to prove himself, so he does not really understand the etiquette.

It's the responsibility of every senior grade to make sure a new member is made welcome, made safe, not aboused and told what the correct behavious is.

Retaliation is not usually the correct response.

Explaining in a friendly and relaxed manner that is is considered "bad manners" to do this to try and escape from that position. Also - you need to offer an alternative, rather than just telling him what NOT to do.

This way you also teach him how a senior grade is supposed to behave when HE gets to that level and so create a culture in the club where everyone looks after junior grades.

This is the correct answer.

No one really likes rolling with spazzes, but they will remain a spaz until you or someone else helps them out of it.

 

[Commissar]

ya i feel you but he wasnt that new. he had stripes and i know his school doesnt give them out really fast. i mean he had enough technuiqe to where i could tell he been training at least 6 months

If you have technique, his attempts of slamming you shouldn't work anyways.

 

[pailum117]

If he's slamming you from six inches or more after being told not to, he's a tool, put him in his place so he won't pull that crap on anyone else. But if the slamming is just a noob trying to jerk out of guard I say let it go, he's trying to learn.

 

[Tengu88]

I wouldnt have put him to sleep, I def would have held it a little long though