Which was the last year Tito was considered “elite”.

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  1. VinnieVincent Orange Belt

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    Not counting his win over Bader, his last great win was against vitor in 2005? What do you guys think ?
     
  2. EndlessCritic Steel Belt

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    We aren't counting his wins over Shlemenko and Sonnen?
     
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    Elite? Uhh let me tell you how you’re feeling.
     
  4. mirko>anyone Red Belt

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    Probably when he should have beaten Rashad in 2007 but he had a point deducted. Almost locked a crazy ass triangle on undefeated Machida too.
     
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    I'd say 2010 at the latest.

    He lost to Chuck, and then would have beat Rashad in 2007 if he didnt get a point deducted for holding shorts. His fault, but still noteworthy.

    Then he lost to Machida, but no shame there. So was everyone.

    Close fight with Griffin that could have goon either way in 2009.

    2010 he lost to Hammill and that was the end for sure. The fight was not close. You could argue before that.

    Edit: I said Bader before when I meant Hammill.
     
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    Since Tito won Huntington Beach City Council seat few days ago, I would say he is now a part of the elite more than ever.
     
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    Shit, ‘99 maybe?
     
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    Do you consider Chael a "great win" when he fought Tito, at age 40 after not fighting for over 3 years? Shlemenko would be a good win if he wasn't 20 lbs smaller and in a different weight class.
     
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    Man I wish he pulled off that arm armbar or triangle or whatever it was on machida. Would have been a great feather at that point and a big fuck you to ufc
     
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    Whenever Hammil beat him.
     
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    Yeah, neither of those are even close to elite wins.

    To Tito’s credit, he aged gracefully physically, considering the perpetual injuries that plagued him. While he was probably no longer the cream of the crop by the mid 2000s, I do think a lot of his uninspiring performances were due to nagging injuries.

    In some ways, it kind of helped him in his later years because he actually hasn’t taken many beatings. He was past his prime but he was in really good shape the past few years.
     
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    This. The Forrest Griffin fight was his last one at the "elite" level
     
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    Not levelling this at you TS but I don’t get the huge hate for Tito. I get that he’s a dumbass and a bit of a dick but I thought he was fairly genuine when not doing promos throughout his career. Came across well on TUF, albeit against Ken. I like him and he’s unintentionally hilarious which is my kind of comedy.

    And when was he considered elite? Until Chuck 1? Then considered a top contender for a good while. Tito was legit.
     
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    I have never considered Tito an elite fighter.
    In fact, I currently do not even consider him a fighter at all, relative to the talent level of today's crop.
    He always seemed to crumple under distress, he is terribly limited in his skill set, and I considered him sloppy at anything other than ground-and-pound.

    In my opinion, he is the beginning and the end of the chapter titled, "Lay-n-Pray" in the book of martial arts.
     
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    When he first got in Bellator
     
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    Never, considering the entire Pride LHW Roster would’ve starched him... besides the obvious fact that Handy and Chuck did
     
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    Definitely this. Matt Hamill was pretty good back then, but he was never a title contender like Evans, Machida, and Griffin were. Losing to him was definitely the moment Ortiz went from elite to gatekeeper/journeyman level.

    Still, credit to Ortiz for lasting as long in the sport as he did. Even if he never had the same height in popularity as Liddell, he was a fan favorite for a long time, and he didn't spend his last several fights getting KOed like the Iceman did.
     
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    Those aren't great wins
     
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