Which videocard should i get?

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  1. F1980 Green Belt

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    Here are my speccs. I was thinking of upgrading my videcoard. Is it worth upgrading noting this is what I'm rocking with? Will all my other stuff bottleneck my GPU?

    I'm leaning towards Nvidia, but if AMD is that much better price to performance ratio-wise, then I have no problem going with an AMD card.

    I'm trying to play Fallout 4 and I dont like the sub 60FPS I'm getting when I'm out it the open world. Also, I have a 24" monitor that's 1920x1080 which I'm not getting rid of any time soon. Should help a lot in FPS since I'm betting most of the new cards are geared towards 1440 and up.

    WIndows 10 and my budget is around $500. I can go a few hundred dollars more if I get a significant boost in FPS

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  2. Senzo Tanaka Silver Belt

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    I would go RTX 2060 or 2070 if you can swing it.

    I went 970 to 2070 and it's a solid upgrade. It also depends on the resolution you run. If you run 1440 and above, I'd try to get the 2070. 1080p, you'd probably be fine with the 2060. Even the 970 handles 1080p well still.

    Also, if you have the room in your case, triple slot GPUs are awesome. I bought this one and it runs significantly cooler.

    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3173-KR
     
  3. My Spot Not my liver spot. Not my bald spot.

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    My 1070 (which came out in 2016) never comes close to dropping below 60 FPS in Fallout 4 at 1080p (even Ultra settings). Get a 1660 Super or Ti.
     
  4. F1980 Green Belt

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    Im leaning towards an RTX 2070, seems like that's the sweet spot before it gets drastic diminishing returns. Around $550
     
  5. My Spot Not my liver spot. Not my bald spot.

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    Meh if it has to be RTX then the 2060 or 2060 Super would be great for 1080p.

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  6. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Your i5-7400 won't bottleneck any GPUs, right now. You could get the RTX Titan.

    I second Senzo. For 1080p right now AMD's new RX 5600 XT really is the perfect card, as I think Anandtech or Tom's Hardware found it averaged above 60fps in every single graphics buster they tested except a single game, and it carries the best value-performance that meets the minimum of performance you're considering. Still, there's a sound reason to opt for as much horsepower as you can get before the value-performance drops off steeply. A more powerful GPU would maintain that 60fps minimum for a few years moving forward as games become more demanding, and also keep your minimums above 60fps in less demanding games today.

    At the moment the value curve drops off steeply above the RTX 2070 Super (i.e. the RTX 2080 Super and stronger). So somewhere between those two cards. If you're looking at more fringe retail outlets (like eBay) you might look for a great deal on the Vega 56. It's more powerful than the 5600 XT, and last week a new unit was seen at $250. That was tremendous.

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  7. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If one prefers NVIDIA drivers the RTX 2060 is the closest analogue to the new RX 5600 XT, but it's running ~$40-$50 more on average, at the moment, and while it is nearly identical in performance now, that's only because the 5600 XT is brand new, and had a rocky launch at that. The 5600 XT has about 25% more raw flops of horsepower, so as with past AMD cards, it will age considerably better as drivers improve over time, and game developers fine tune their software to accommodate it. The RTX 2060 has ray-tracing, but not an appreciable enough amount for it to matter.

    I'd definitely opt for the RX 5600 XT between those two unless one is a serious team green fanboy.
     
  8. My Spot Not my liver spot. Not my bald spot.

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    Which I am. :D

    Edit: Mainly an EVGA fanboy, and I don't think they've ever made any ATi/AMD cards.
     
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    I went with Amazon because I get it tomorrow morning
     
  12. My Spot Not my liver spot. Not my bald spot.

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    The Powerlink thingy helps make cable management look better. I think it's like $10 separately.
     
  13. jefferz Steel Belt

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    AMD priced the 5600xt at an odd price point. Recently there has been sales on the 5700 for around that $310 mark. There's even an XFX 5700 for sale on Amazon for $300 at the moment.
    Personally I'd spend the extra 10%ish money on the 5700. The benchmarks now don't show a 10% bonus fps for your money but I think in the long run the extra 2gb of vram will allow the card to last longerr.
    Of course this will all change when we start to see sales on the 5600xt. At $260 the 5600xt becomes a lot more appealing to me.
     
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    Got it this morning, had to go get some displayport cables since it doesn't have a DVI port.

    I was getting the same FPS as my old videocard, turns out it was a setting in the Fallout 4 .ini file all along. I spent $550 on a videocard and $120 on a new PSU for nothing

    still not returning, though, this card will last me a few years
     
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    got the videocard in 12 hours after I ordered it.. was outside my door at 7am this morning
     
  16. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    Thats mega overkill for the CPU, i would have went 5600XT or 5700 and saved the 200 and put that towards a new platform am4 maybe ryzen 5 3600 .. this would get you much smoother gameplay in the long run ... IMO
    Aynways enjoy your purchase .. nice card
     
  17. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    It's overkill, but it should hold up because of that. Remember GPUs age out much more quickly than CPUs. He didn't need to upgrade the CPU at this time, and his CPU won't choke that GPU except in a few games that are CPU-bound that choke everything, or where the framerates effectively scale linearly with the CPU performance.

    There's a strong argument for the strategy you suggest, but it sounds like he wanted to score a lump upgrade right now on his budget, and then didn't want to touch his setup for at least several years while he games on his current monitor. This was his biggest single upgrade on that budget while he rides out his 7th gen i5 to obsolescence over that period.

    Expect the next gen of consoles to bring much greater stress to the GPUs relative to the CPUs. That's always the case.
     
  18. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    LOL, doh! We've all had moments like this. Well, now you can mod the fuck out of the game.

    Also, a PSU upgrade like that will never be a waste. Sounds like you bought one of the top quality units. Hopefully it's a Corsair or Seasonic with a 10+ year warranty. You can recycle that for your next build. Those hold up.
     
  19. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    I agree the CPU wont choke the new GPU, but the i5 7600 is long in the tooth now and will choke in some games..
    I had a 6500 not long back in a build and it was showing signs of age.. not in all games but in some of the newer stuff and that was at 1080.. changd it out to a Ryzen 5 3600 and its a night and day difference.. no stutters and the performance is rock solid again ..
    2070 is no doubt a great card, but its over piriced.
    With the next gen stuff from AMD and the green on the doorstep next couple of months i would have waited.

    Also no way he gets another couple of years on that CPU.. unless hes playing old stuff..
     
  20. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    i5-7400.

    There's very, very few games where that CPU is a limiter at 1080p. Here's Game Debate's "Most Demanding" list:
    https://www.game-debate.com/games/most-demanding

    About the only game where that CPU doesn't meet the recommended (not minimum) specs are upcoming games like the VR title Half-Life: Alyx. The i5-6600 is the recommended baseline for the recent Star Wars: Fallen Order, for example. Remember he named 60fps as his target. It doesn't sound like his 24" monitor is 144Hz.
     

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