Which is more likely to happen - To see a fighter like Fedor in the future or to see a fighter like Jon Jones in the future?

Which is more likely to happen?


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Both are incredible athletes and extraordinarily unique.

One is 6'5" with incredible reach and excellent overall skill sets. With a super high IQ.

The other is small in stature but fights like someone 4 x bigger than he is. With incredible speed and power and amazing well rounded skill set.

Can you see a future fighter similar to these extraordinary guys?

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Are we taking about achievements and fighting ability only? or also their controversies and behavior's outside the Octagon and the hate they stir among MMA fans?
If we include both, I don't think we will see someone like Jones
 
At the very least it will be a long while before anyone comes close to the sheer length of Fedors win streak, you could even argue no one will ever surpass it due to how MMA matching has changed. Fedor has around 10-12 very good wins, while the rest are padding to an extent against lower level competition as compared to todays standards. He was also a very special athlete with a tough upbringing in 1990's Russia, which experienced the sharpest decline in life expectancy during peacetime in recorded history after the dissolvement of the Soviet Union during that decade.
He once said early in his career that every time he fought he thought of his family and the struggles he went through, and that the man across from him was going to take food out of his family's mouth, and he wouldn't let that happen.

He trained with tires with his brother outside or in parks, not fancy gyms and PI institutes.
He had great respect and sportsmanship but was also a cold killer. His speed at HW is still unmatched although some are close.
He also fought in an org with a ruleset that today's premier org [UFC] doesn't use, and fought in Grand Prix's.

So suffice to say he was a rare and special talent from a specific time in history.
BUT I voted Fedor, because Aspinall while not being as impressive is CLOSE in terms of athletic ability and speed as well as power, and I do think we are starting to see new breeds of HW's.

Ciryl Gane is nothing compared to Fedor obviously, BUT if someone like Cyril Gane trained at a young age and was motivated, hungry, and special, they'd reach near Fedor heights.

Meanwhile LHW is at an all time low even more so then HW, Potan has no one but Ankalaev to face. Potan himself is representative of this decline, a very limited Kick boxing champion with very few MMA fights coming in and dominating.
Even more so then the HW division, LHW just isn't elite enough for a Jon Jones like run. In Fedors time the cream of the crop at HW was more elite then today, but the vast majority of HW's were still brawlers, fat guys etc. LHW was killers all the way down though just before and during Jone's peak. In Jone's era and division you had to be much more of a complete fighter, And Jon Jones is perhaps the most complete fighter of all time.
Lastly Jones had the ability to be much more unorthodox then someone like Fedor. Unorthodox high level fighters are extremely rare, especially in the modern era.

Additionally LHW fights last longer, there's more technique involved, there's more ways to lose .
Yes in HW it's the power, title runs are very short usually, but that also means you can win quick, and if a guy has the speed of Fedor (or close to it) you could absolutely go on a tear against these guys.

I don't think you'll ever quite get someone with the win streak of either in our lifetimes, but you'll see a legendary fighter like Fedor at HW (Aspinall, a Ciryl Gane clone 2.0 ) before you will see a crazy unorthodox talent like Jon Jones at LHW. The man would party with cocaine and then a week later beat a guy like DC, fighters like that are ultra rare.
 
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Jones fought against past prime legends and ducked his natural weight class of HW to fight much smaller fighters, plus he juices to the neck and eyeballs and had youth on his side.

Fedor fought at HW as a mini HW that modern WW/MW cut from and showed insane speed and power.

They are different breeds, one cheats and picks and chooses, the other doesn’t give a fuck, that being Fedor.
 
You're not going to get guys like Fedor anymore. You can't rely on armbars off your back. Fedor wasn't as thick as DC or someone where he was physically imposing. Fighters his size can't outspeed someone like Ngannou who is fast and big.

Jones was already a prototype for modern mma, extreme length advantage and wrestling/kickboxing strengths. If someone dominates like these guys it will be like Jones.
 
Robelis Despaigne is Jones without wrestling.

Probably you won't see fighters as short as Fedor at HW or LHW.
He has the height of a modern WW.

Despaigne's claim to fame is his freaky build & his best career win is Josh Parisian. He's probably going nowhere of note in the UFC and his name doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Jones in any fashion.
 
We'll never see a major promotion as corrupt as Pride so the mystique of Fedor will never be manufactured again. MMA really doesn't pay enough to attract an athlete the calibre of Jones anymore but a phenom who wastes his potential by constantly doing drugs/getting arrested will likely happen many more times
 
Jones fought against past prime legends and ducked his natural weight class of HW to fight much smaller fighters, plus he juices to the neck and eyeballs and had youth on his side.

Fedor fought at HW as a mini HW that modern WW/MW cut from and showed insane speed and power.

They are different breeds, one cheats and picks and chooses, the other doesn’t give a fuck, that being Fedor.
funny thing is the average age of LHW fighters in their prime is 32-33
(theres a statistic here to back this up)
jones fought fighters averaging 29-32 years old of age
those stats where taken when jones was reigning the LHW division

are the stats lying or you?
or maybe your a noobie?
maybe both?
 
jones' physique makes him unlikely to be duplicated. you combine a wingspan that freakish with a skillset that good (and complete) and you probably won't be seeing it again for a long time.
 
I think we'll see someone like Bones in the future. A young guy who comes in & takes out older guys via evolution.
 
Depends if they test and penalize for PED's in the future or throw open the gates and make it a free for all.
 
funny thing is the average age of LHW fighters in their prime is 32-33
(theres a statistic here to back this up)
jones fought fighters averaging 29-32 years old of age
those stats where taken when jones was reigning the LHW division

are the stats lying or you?
or maybe your a noobie?
maybe both?


Fedor had 23 fights in his first 4 years as a fighter and another 30+ fights in full contact combat sambo during that time.

You're one of those clowns who think Jose Aldo was still in his prime at 33 years old.

Imbeciles like you simply don't understand that a fighter who's been fighting as a pro since he was 20 years old isn't the same kind of 33 year old who who started fighting as a pro at 27.

Clowns like you usually never trained a day in their life and don't understand how an athlete ages and accumulates wear and tear. People become dumber after reading your posts.

Strikeforce Fedor in 2011 wasn't 2003-2005 Fedor. That would be like saying Conor of today is the same guy he was in 2016.

Noob low iq posting from noobs who don't know sheet.
 
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