Which continent has the best beer?

[bref]

And as far as Germany, there is undoubtedly good beer made there, but two of the most overrated beers in the world are Heineken and Beck's. Much like Budweiser in the US, they have succeeded more at marketing than they have at making a quality product.

Heineken is Dutch, no?

 

[dc007]

North American specifically the States absolutely dominates this. Check ratebeer or beeradvocate and the top rated beers are almost all from the US. Craft > everything else

 

[Chindit]

I order from here all the time. Great website.

https://www.saveur-biere.com/fr/

Thanks !
Any advice ? Good brands, favorite beers ?

 

[SwamiLeoni]

I'm biased, I live in San Diego. N. America for the win here. Every corner I look there is an amazing brewery. Ballast Point is my fav and I'm not even a big fan of IPA's.

 

[Andy Capp]

Most of this is total nonsense. Canada are nowhere near on the level of the US when it comes to beer.

Asia having the best booze is insane lol.

I didn't say it was the best. I said the amount of good liquor was not as limited in selection as the amount of good beer.
If you want to talk about levels, if you count 7200 varieties of IPA, sure, it's not even close, but if you want to talk about a very good selection of various kinds of beer across almost the whole country, I don't think there's so much separation. I admit I may be off in my assessment of the state of American beer, but you wouldn't know it from the other beer threads on Sherdog.

 

[monsterxmonster]

I didn't say it was the best. I said the amount of good liquor was not as limited in selection as the amount of good beer.
If you want to talk about levels, if you count 7200 varieties of IPA, sure, it's not even close, but if you want to talk about a very good selection of various kinds of beer across almost the whole country, I don't think there's so much separation. I admit I may be off in my assessment of the state of American beer, but you wouldn't know it from the other beer threads on Sherdog.

Yeah, you're way off. There are states in the US with more high quality breweries than the entire of Canada. There are tons of breweries in the US specifically specialising in saisons, American wild ales, lagers, stouts and every other style you can imagine. You'll always see a lot of pale ales and IPAs because they're accessible and easy drinking. Nobody's drinking a 6 pack of imperial stout.

 

[monsterxmonster]

Thanks !
Any advice ? Good brands, favorite beers ?

As far as American beer goes I would probably recommend waiting for a bunch to hit the new beers section. Beer is generally better fresh so you don't want to end up with something that's sitting in their warehouse for months. I'm on mobile right now but when I get to a computer I'll send you some recommendations.

 

[Andy Capp]

i know japan produces some top shelf whiskey and some beers, but what other countries in asia produce great booze?

Truthfully, I just didn't want to assume only Japan has good liquor. I can't really speak for many other places.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

North American specifically the States absolutely dominates this. Check ratebeer or beeradvocate and the top rated beers are almost all from the US. Craft > everything else

those are american sites mostly trafficked by americans though, so there is a heavy inherent bias.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/beeradvocate.com

80% american traffic

interesting to note, the highest rated beer not produced in the u.s. on beeradvocate is a belgian quad: Trappist Westvleteren 12

 

[Marfa]

im gonna guess they all taste like shit

guinness aint that terrible though.

comparing the best selling beers in each continent i dont think would give you a good idea of which country produces the best beers

I think one of the reasons there is a rise of craftbeers in the USA is due to poor average quality of the high-sales beers, making the new brews fill a gap in the market. Adding to that the size of the market itself, it presents a good opportunity for beer enthusiasts to put new products forward. At the same time, a country with a more decent high-sales brew, and in most cases smaller markets, would probably not see such a rise of crafts due to complacency and risk-reward ratio. A successful homebrew company in the States is gonna rake in way more revenue than the successful homebrew company in, say, Italy, at the same market share point in their respective economies. With sufficient cashflow I'd guess the USA breweries can afford much more research and development, thus gaining the upper hand eventually.

I welcome corrections and debate since I'm speculating.

 

[dc007]

those are american sites mostly trafficked by americans though, so there is a heavy inherent bias.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/beeradvocate.com

80% american traffic

interesting to note, the highest rated beer not produced in the u.s. on beeradvocate is a belgian quad: Trappist Westvleteren 12

True but all over the world new breweries are opening all the time trying to replicate what we've been doing here for the last few decades. There's been a major shift everywhere.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yeah, you're way off. There are states in the US with more high quality breweries than the entire of Canada. There are tons of breweries in the US specifically specialising in saisons, American wild ales, lagers, stouts and every other style you can imagine. You'll always see a lot of pale ales and IPAs because they're accessible and easy drinking. Nobody's drinking a 6 pack of imperial stout.

You'll always see? If you don't see the other ones how can you drink them? Do you have to drive 100 miles or order online every time you want to stock up on good beer?
Anyway, I am sure there are lots of different beers all across the US, but my point is if quality is given weight over quantity, we're not lagging behind.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

True but all over the world new breweries are opening all the time trying to replicate what we've been doing here for the last few decades. There's been a major shift everywhere.

i agree in that i think north america is probably the continent that produces the best beer

 

[monsterxmonster]

You'll always see? If you don't see the other ones how can you drink them? Do you have to drive 100 miles or order online every time you want to stock up on good beer?
Anyway, I am sure there are lots of different beers all across the US, but my point is if quality is given weight over quantity, we're not lagging behind.

I'm not saying that Canada doesn't have good beer, I love Dieu Du Ciel. Peche Mortel is one of my favourite beers. But there is still a huge gulf in the number of high quality breweries between the US and Canada.

Look at the beer list in Vin Papillon and Joe Beef. Only Hill Farmstead beers from Vermont. A brewery mostly known for their saisons and farmhouse ales.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

The state of PA alone is better than Canada when I comes to beer.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

North America.

Although they drink a lot more in Europe, Europeans aren't into the craft beer scene as much as NA is.

Ummmm maybe you have heard of trappist beers?

NA's best IPA doesn't come close.

 

[monsterxmonster]

Ummmm maybe you have heard of trappist beers?

NA's best IPA doesn't come close.

I assume you've had some NA's best IPAs then right?

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm not saying that Canada doesn't have good beer, I love Dieu Du Ciel. Peche Mortel is one of my favourite beers. But there is still a huge gulf in the number of high quality breweries between the US and Canada.

Look at the beer list in Vin Papillon and Joe Beef. Only Hill Farmstead beers from Vermont. A brewery mostly known for their saisons and farmhouse ales.

Look at the population. Give me some credit for having some perspective on the matter. We're less than 40 million people spread across the 2nd largest country in the world and I believe you crested 300 million a while ago. Given that, again, I am not talking about number, I am talking about being able to go just about anywhere and get really good beer. Isn't that all anyone needs? Anyway, if you weren't trying to say we don't have good beer, you probably didn't need to be so snarky about a small difference of opinion in your earlier posts.

 

[monsterxmonster]

Look at the population. Give me some credit for having some perspective on the matter. We're less than 40 million people spread across the 2nd largest country in the world and I believe you crested 300 million a while ago. Given that, again, I am not talking about number, I am talking about being able to go just about anywhere and get really good beer. Isn't that all anyone needs? Anyway, if you weren't trying to say we don't have good beer, you probably didn't need to be so snarky about a small difference of opinion in your earlier posts.

I'm not even American. Apologies if it came across snarky.

 

[Andy Capp]

The state of PA alone is better than Canada when I comes to beer.

This is a partial list of breweries in Pennsylvania. In 2012 there were 134 licensed breweries in Pennsylvania.[1] Only the notable ones are listed here.
This is an incomplete list of many of the breweries in Canada.
The Canadian list is demonstrably longer although only a most pleasurable lifetime of sampling them all would prove whether they are the equal in quality, I will admit. Anyway, why the hell is everyone so serious about a discussion of beer? I love beer no matter where it's from if it's good. I rebel a little from the uber emphasis throughout NA on IPAs since I quite smoking but I appreciate their place in the beer pantheon. I just happen to have the impression that if you extract IPAs from the equation, the USA is not so far along as one might wish and Canada has a role to play in filling the gap.