Which arts to teach a five year old? Muay Thai, kickboxing, or?

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Which art would you put a five year old in? Muay Thai, Kickboxing, or something else?

My kid has been in JJ for a year but they don't teach striking. He did karate too but that gym was a joke. Should he just focus on something or do everything?
 
TKD or some kid friendly styles of Karate. There is a reason you dont have kids competition in MT or KB, but you find organized bouts from federations in TKD or Karate.
As a teen, he can go for a more "aggressive" type of combat art.
 
Which art would you put a five year old in? Muay Thai, Kickboxing, or something else?

My kid has been in JJ for a year but they don't teach striking. He did karate too but that gym was a joke. Should he just focus on something or do everything?


Well being so young though which is good I would start with a serious full body stretching and exercise program if he is interested that will get him to start to develop good flexibility, mobility and strength.

You can go for sport combat systems but I would suggest the more Traditional Martial Arts to complete at least as a base from the below in list.

Where you will be taught allot more than just kick and punch under a true linage and sifu/instructor. Where you will undergo specific training through a proper syllabus / curriculum in effective fighting techniques (sport and self defense), conditioning and stretching programs movement and fighting strategy along with conditioning methods.

Traditional Martial Arts........
  1. Kung Fu San Soo
  2. Kung Fu Vovinam .
  3. Kung Fu Choy Li Fut
  4. Kung Fu Sanshou (or Sanda)
  5. Filopino Panantukan
  6. Wing Chun
  7. Karate Okinawan
  8. JiuJutsu

In all Traditional Martial Arts you cover the four fundamental combat zones of fighting... E.g.... kicks, punches, locks and grappling so on.

  1. Long Range
  2. Close Range
  3. Tackling Range
  4. Ground Range

Once you have covered one TMA as a base then just mix it up it will give you the fighting aspect needed if entering competition/tournaments etc.

Other fighting arts I like and encourage anyone to do are......
  • Boxing
  • Taekwondo

With Modern Muay Thai it lacks in the ground work area, as it’s more standup sport fighting by design.

Although it could be said its hard to find some places the teach TMA's altogether in some categories like Lerdrit or Boran which in my view are allot more interesting, in-depth, realistic, applies to more conditioning and is more a base and a long life process of refinement achieving more over the years in comparison to a sport derivative/branch.

You get much more training and fighting awareness in any TMA 100% that’s why to me they are more interesting to learn for personal hobby interest, where you can easily apply and adapt to a sport rule set in obeying them.

A MUAY THAI LERDRIT EXAMPLE FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAINING APPROACH:-



 
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Which art would you put a five year old in? Muay Thai, Kickboxing, or something else?

My kid has been in JJ for a year but they don't teach striking. He did karate too but that gym was a joke. Should he just focus on something or do everything?

just curious what made the karate place a joke? bad teacher? i have a 3 year old and a 3 month old, and i plan on exposing them to wrestling, JJ, and something like karate or TKD. not gonna make them train 7 days a week or anything crazy, just kinda see what they enjoy.

you could also check out that School of Self Awareness that diego sanchez is in, i hear it's pretty lethal :)
 
just curious what made the karate place a joke? bad teacher? i have a 3 year old and a 3 month old, and i plan on exposing them to wrestling, JJ, and something like karate or TKD. not gonna make them train 7 days a week or anything crazy, just kinda see what they enjoy.

you could also check out that School of Self Awareness that diego sanchez is in, i hear it's pretty lethal :)

I should start by saying I’m sure that karate school is great for some people. I am training my son with MMA as the end goal. So that karate school was more of a dance class than anything practical. The older kids doing jiu jitsu there had really bad form. The school also had a lot of cult like focus on their internal belt system rather than any focus on external competition. In short, no killers to be found in there.
 
A striking art for a 5-year-old? Boxing all the way. Pretty easy to find a legit gym and nobody in their right mind would let a kid that young spar so it's absolutely safe. I'm amazed some people are even recommending TKD and other bullshit arts. I mean, seriously guys...
 
For small kids there depends form offered physical development programme, this includes power, flexibility, reaction, coordination, core strength, static strength and ability to bear load and be quickly thinking etc.
This is core for any sports, also non combat sports.
Good tutelage might develop core values regardless of name of the sport.
I think if one spars from age of ~ 10 years, it isn't too late if there strength and flexibility ( for flexibility especially valuable is to start earlier with exercises, regardless of aim is combat art or non combat sport ).
 
I should start by saying I’m sure that karate school is great for some people. I am training my son with MMA as the end goal. So that karate school was more of a dance class than anything practical. The older kids doing jiu jitsu there had really bad form. The school also had a lot of cult like focus on their internal belt system rather than any focus on external competition. In short, no killers to be found in there.

gotcha. i'm not opposed to belt systems as a thing, but yeah some schools focus too much on it and/or charge like $40 just to test for each belt.
 
I think it's less about the art and more about finding a school that can properly teach a 5 year old striking without watering it down into glorified dance/daycare. And without exposing them to damage that their bodies are too young for.

Find a school that can teach a 5 year old to strike properly and stick with them until the kid's old enough for something else. He's better off with proper training in nothing than improper training in something just to say he's in something.

I train my kid myself for that reason and I'm happy with the results. I teach what he can handle physically, process mentally/emotionally and what he can apply safely with other kids. I've seen him apply it so I know it's sticking. Down the road, he can join a more formal gym and I know he won't have bad habits or the wrong mindset to unlearn.
 
A striking art for a 5-year-old? Boxing all the way. Pretty easy to find a legit gym and nobody in their right mind would let a kid that young spar so it's absolutely safe. I'm amazed some people are even recommending TKD and other bullshit arts. I mean, seriously guys...

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Stop being so melodramatic there are programs for kids in most schools (Kwoons/Dojos)

I have two kids of my own LoL

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Although if you had read my post with some degree of maturity you would have understood that I also recommended a solid exercise stretching program..... that will ensure good skill development as he pursues proper training in any Martial Art of choice.

That was the point CHOICE! ;)

Nothing wrong with TMA's at all and OP states.............. ( or something else? Should he just focus on something or do everything?)

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I think it's less about the art and more about finding a school that can properly teach a 5 year old striking without watering it down into glorified dance/daycare. And without exposing them to damage that their bodies are too young for.

Find a school that can teach a 5 year old to strike properly and stick with them until the kid's old enough for something else. He's better off with proper training in nothing than improper training in something just to say he's in something.

I train my kid myself for that reason and I'm happy with the results. I teach what he can handle physically, process mentally/emotionally and what he can apply safely with other kids. I've seen him apply it so I know it's sticking. Down the road, he can join a more formal gym and I know he won't have bad habits or the wrong mindset to unlearn.

Unlearning is my biggest fear. Striking just isn’t well understood generally, even some pro mma fighters have really bad habits.
 
Unlearning is my biggest fear. Striking just isn’t well understood generally, even some pro mma fighters have really bad habits.
Agreed. Ingraining bad striking habits has to be among the worst things if you want your kid to do MMA later. Maybe ask @Sinister what he aims for in teaching kids and then seeing if you can find someone who applies it.

IMO, there's nothing wrong with waiting until you find the right school, regardless of the art.
 
I think it's less about the art and more about finding a school that can properly teach a 5 year old striking without watering it down into glorified dance/daycare. And without exposing them to damage that their bodies are too young for.

Find a school that can teach a 5 year old to strike properly and stick with them until the kid's old enough for something else. He's better off with proper training in nothing than improper training in something just to say he's in something.

I train my kid myself for that reason and I'm happy with the results. I teach what he can handle physically, process mentally/emotionally and what he can apply safely with other kids. I've seen him apply it so I know it's sticking. Down the road, he can join a more formal gym and I know he won't have bad habits or the wrong mindset to unlearn.

Let them bang.......

Head start on the 9 year old Thai kid......
 
Talking about tots training.....off my cousins Facebook page thought it was worth sharing here LoL




Little Saenchai :D
 
Have the kid cross train in Wing Chun and Taekwondo. When he's a little older like 12 or 13, put him in muay thai. But have him be very dedicated in Wing Chun and TKD. Trust me, it'll pay off.
 
A good Kickboxing gym or in a Boxing Gym and a Kyokushin school
 
Well being so young though which is good I would start with a serious full body stretching and exercise program if he is interested that will get him to start to develop good flexibility, mobility and strength.

You can go for sport combat systems but I would suggest the more Traditional Martial Arts to complete at least as a base from the below in list.

Where you will be taught allot more than just kick and punch under a true linage and sifu/instructor. Where you will undergo specific training through a proper syllabus / curriculum in effective fighting techniques (sport and self defense), conditioning and stretching programs movement and fighting strategy along with conditioning methods.

Traditional Martial Arts........
  1. Kung Fu San Soo
  2. Kung Fu Vovinam .
  3. Kung Fu Choy Li Fut
  4. Kung Fu Sanshou (or Sanda)
  5. Filopino Panantukan
  6. Wing Chun
  7. Karate Okinawan
  8. JiuJutsu

In all Traditional Martial Arts you cover the four fundamental combat zones of fighting... E.g.... kicks, punches, locks and grappling so on.

  1. Long Range
  2. Close Range
  3. Tackling Range
  4. Ground Range

Once you have covered one TMA as a base then just mix it up it will give you the fighting aspect needed if entering competition/tournaments etc.

Other fighting arts I like and encourage anyone to do are......
  • Boxing
  • Taekwondo

With Modern Muay Thai it lacks in the ground work area, as it’s more standup sport fighting by design.

Although it could be said its hard to find some places the teach TMA's altogether in some categories like Lerdrit or Boran which in my view are allot more interesting, in-depth, realistic, applies to more conditioning and is more a base and a long life process of refinement achieving more over the years in comparison to a sport derivative/branch.

You get much more training and fighting awareness in any TMA 100% that’s why to me they are more interesting to learn for personal hobby interest, where you can easily apply and adapt to a sport rule set in obeying them.

A MUAY THAI LERDRIT EXAMPLE FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAINING APPROACH:-




lol That list, only Sanda is good
 
Agreed. Ingraining bad striking habits has to be among the worst things if you want your kid to do MMA later. Maybe ask @Sinister what he aims for in teaching kids and then seeing if you can find someone who applies it.

IMO, there's nothing wrong with waiting until you find the right school, regardless of the art.

In Boxing in some U.S. states the kids can begin fighting at 6, and some it's 8. I'm not sure why there's a difference but there is. Right now I have around 5 students under 9, and a couple of 11-12 year-olds. My Son trains, at 6 years of age (as of the 11th), but the trick with him is he's been only going to the Gym 3 days a week for like the last year or so.

The biggest mistake with small children is having them be MILITANT about attendance and form practice before they understand what's going on. They seem receptive to it, but people overlook whether or not it's genuinely fun for them. MOST kids treated like this, even if someone isn't being mean to them, they inevitably quit because the focus is something other than it being fun.
 
Kyokushin Karate
Simple, straightforward, disciplined, tough, great conditioning and almost no head trauma risks.

Wado-Ryu Karate is great for blending striking and grappling if You can find a good dojo. Okinawan styles like Goju and Uechi can be just as good but harder to find. My own base style is Shotokan but unless you've got a real JKA place nearby... I'd say forget it. It's too watered down these days to actually be useful in combat.

Sanda (Sanshou) is pretty good as well, can't say much more tho since I only dabbled in it.

I'll be signing up my own kid to Judo most probably but you asked for a standup style.

If you're a TMA hater tho (shame on you) go ahead and put him into boxing. Just make sure the coach is good with kids and doesn't make them spar too soon. Sparring should be for adults anyway, IMO.
 
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