Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by actjac, Aug 10, 2015.
Took me awhile but I think you meant McCain
Different fighters for different punches. No one fighter was totally complete.
Dang man....the guy you are teaching would need glasses from watching alot of tape.
edit: @moz and the McCain thing
McCallum or Hopkins would be my personal choice. Both guys that were cerebral about what they were doing. Maybe they have a hard time articulating it, but the information is there in abundance if you can pull it out of them.
no i mean abel's brother, just kidding, forgive me guys i have a splitting headache and ain't in my right mind.
thing is, no one ever threw punches as perfectly as Ray, no one, just look at the stills of his punches and it look like an olympic athlete performing a throw, just maximizing every ounce of body weight and leverage.
Not me.. I prefer guys that understand what it's like to get knocked out..and understand what they did wrong.. and understand how to teach you not to make the same mistake
Joe Walcott would be a great coach
Haha yeah, Bernard doesn't let a sentence hang. He just keeps saying words, until one of those words lets him get back to his point.
The reason that I like Walcott is for his footwork, his jab, slips and rolls punches to counter and his upper body movement in close, he is aware of the distances.... plus has the lost art of feinting.
Eh just because a guy got knocked out doesn't mean he knows more than a guy that didn't. That's just assuming the guy that got knocked out is a good study, and the guy that never did was a fluke.
Neither is necessarily true.
anyway, i really do believe so many fighters have something to learn from, you know, you don't have to be a willie pep or a roy jones to make some of their techniques work, depends on who you're fighting. what I mean is like how Arturo Gatti had a late career resurgence by going back to a style of boxing he'd abandoned on turning pro, he managed to eke out a few more fights out of his career which maybe should have been over. You don't have to be a genius and have the physical gifts to make things work.
Lennox Lewis, is savvy, well articulated and patient.
That's who I pick
(there are other good picks, too)
Well.. Im not saying it like you received it.. what Im saying is that the more situations a fighter has been in, the more information he has to share with the inexperienced...
In the case of Joe Walcott, we have an incredibally smart fighter that fought well beyond his prime and against people that were more gifted athletically than he was.. he used technique and will to make up the difference when he could..
I just think there is nothing worse than a coach that was an exceptional athletic specemin... what worked for them simply does not apply to the majority of fighters
in thought he was talking about tapes to teach from not the fighter himself. if that's the case, great fighters are notoriously poor trainers, not too many of them for a lot of reasons.
Hopkins, Finito Lopez, or Arguello.
If you have to take one I would take finito. But like I said I'd teach lennoxs jab etc. no one fighter is perfect.
Lennox's jab had a lot to do with his natural size and athleticism.. I would much rather learn from Ike Quartey how to throw a good jab.. being that Im not 6'5 with cheetar speed
Separate names with a comma.