Where does Conor rank on all time goat lists?

[frye666]

In the UFC he absolutely murdered everyone. Destroyed them. Max and Jose.. Easy work. Max lost his championship belt to a fucking midget. So don’t give me this Max is so much better bullshit. Not really.

He got the living shit beat out of him by Nate the Gate when Nate took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

He got the living shit beat out of him by Nate the Gate when Nate took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Yes and he won the rematch. He is also a two division champion. He is also one of the most exciting fighters if not the most exciting fighter of all time. I would argue he is easily the most exciting fighter of all time. Fucking box office beyond belief.

 

[Gamer2k4]

khabib Is arguably the greatest non heavyweight in mma history bro.

He may be, but he doesn't have the resume yet. In five years, we'll see. Plenty of people were undefeated until they weren't; take Barao, for example, who was the interim WW champ with three defenses and a 32-1 record until suddenly going 2-8. Not saying that will happen to Khabib, but I am saying it's too early to determine his legacy.

 

[Istryker]

He may be, but he doesn't have the resume yet. In five years, we'll see. Plenty of people were undefeated until they weren't; take Barao, for example, who was the interim WW champ with three defenses and a 32-1 record until suddenly going 2-8. Not saying that will happen to Khabib, but I am saying it's too early to determine his legacy.

fair

 

[fightfan84]

LOL that is fucking retarded. Do you know in boxing some of the most highly regarded heavyweight champions of all time have very limited title defenses? I mean Wladimir Klitschko defended the championship like 15 times and nobody gave a fuck. Lewis only really defended the championship a few times after defeating Holyfield and retired. And along the way he got knocked out.

Limited title defenses are still different then no title defenses ever.

 

[odinswand]

If this ^^^ were true why is Conor so desperate to get one of them made up props back around his waist so bad...

Because Conor plays into the made up world that gets people to start threads like these... it's in his and the UFC's best interest

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Limited title defenses are still different then no title defenses ever.

Great fighters are not defined by just that. Who did they beat? How dominant were they. Conor checks off a lot of boxes..

 

[Robbie Corleone]

Bunch of people who let their hate for McGregor delude them in this thread.

He's arguably top 10 all-time easily. He's very easily top 20 already.

He is a simultaneous two-division champion in the most modern era of MMA, in the UFC. He flat-lined the FW GOAT in 10 seconds basically (lucky yet dominant), he beat the LW champion Alvarez in utterly dominant fashion, he has wins of Holloway, Porier, and Mendes on his resume'. He technically has wins at FW, LW, and WW across 3 divisions.

His legacy is currently better than Khabib's imo, it's very close arguably, and many are prematurely putting Khabib up there in the top 5-7 range all-time right now. McGregor has a better resume'. He does.

I think there's an argument he is top 10 all-time but that's only if we heavily factor in new era / modern era fighting and diminsh older eras aka guys such as Penn, Hughes, Couture, Shogun, etc.

The biggest knocks are: Lack of title defenes, but this is unique and we have to consider that he fought Floyd Mayweather in boxing and then went to LW with a stint at WW in between. And the biggest black mark = the curated path avoiding wrestlers outside of Mendes, which is a legit test elite wrestler who he beat, he avoided or was protected from wrestlers arguably. But he did fight Mendes and Alvarez, then Khabib.

TLDR: Be objective and let go of your opinion of the person. McGregor's FW run is better than Holloway's, he dethroned the GOAT and was unscathed. He then won the LW belt and held two belts, while going to WW and spltting 1-1 with a ~170lb-er in Nate Diaz. Mayweather fight adds something to his UFC legacy too it does, if Fedor had done that everyone would be grabbing vats of vasoline and crates of tissues.

Best post on this thread.

 

[Istryker]

Great fighters are not defined by just that. Who did they beat? How dominant were they. Conor checks off a lot of boxes..

how dominant is and was conor ?

 

[Taric]

Best post on this thread.

It's an opinion piece. If the guy wanted to actually make an objective post it would go like this:

McGregor (2 championship belts):
Top 5 fighters defeated (4):
Alvarez
Aldo
Mendes
Poirier
Top 10 fighters defeated (1):
Siver

Holloway (4 championship belts):
Top 5 fighters defeated (5):
Edgar
Ortega
Aldo
Aldo
Lamas
Top 10 fighters defeated (3):
Pettis
Oliveria
Swanson

That is actual objectivity.

 

[Istryker]

Best post on this thread.

RIP Pop Smoke

 

[Dbreiden83080]

how dominant is and was conor ?

Names on his resume.

Very impressive. Tore through 45 with ease. Double champ..

 

[Istryker]

Names on his resume.

Very impressive. Tore through 45 with ease. Double champ..

but no title defenses..

 

[FlowchartRog]

I think he is the most exciting fighter of all time. At 45 to me he is the best of all time. I don’t think anybody could beat him at 45. Fucking nobody.

Floyd makes 145 without even trying, then this happens again.

 

[Super Necessary]

Floyd makes 145 without even trying, then this happens again.

Not in MMA. Floyd would make Conor look like Sakuraba lol.

 

[nefti]

Not many double divison champs in history.

 

[No Skill Gap]

It's an opinion piece. If the guy wanted to actually make an objective post it would go like this:

McGregor (2 championship belts):
Top 5 fighters defeated (4):
Alvarez
Aldo
Mendes
Poirier
Top 10 fighters defeated (1):
Siver

Holloway (4 championship belts):
Top 5 fighters defeated (5):
Edgar
Ortega
Aldo
Aldo
Lamas
Top 10 fighters defeated (3):
Pettis
Oliveria
Swanson

That is actual objectivity.

"Actual objectivity"

Sorry, since when is defending the belt = "championship belts"

Yeah real objective there. And going by top 10 wins is retarded, everyone knows the rankings are bullshit and some of the "5-10" ranked fighters aren't even that good at any given time.

If you were acutally objective you'd realize that Cerrone was ranked 4th at LW during the Gaethje fight, so what was he ranked 4 months later at 170? You can't have it both ways. You can't be a delusional McGregor hater who says Cowboy is a lightweight, and then magically think Cowboy fell from 4 to unranked (or not top 10) after one fight.

In reality Cowboy was a top 10 win easily, and Diaz probably was too - not sure of rankings at time.

Another MAJOR point here is that you are just not counting losses. Holloway lost 4 times at FW in the UFC and has lost at LW, and is 0-1. McGregor has lost at 170 and avenged the loss (sure against a tweener but a former legit WW at a point), and lost to Khabib at LW.

One more thing, anyone who says McGregor was never a FW is a fucking retard in this thread. All I have to say. Could Khabib make FW? Could Jon Jones make MW? Fuck no. If you can make a weight-class 5 times in a row without missing weight then you're "that weight class". People are so dumb, or delusional with McGregor hate.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Floyd makes 145 without even trying, then this happens again.

At 45 in a boxing ring... Yes that happens..

 

[Taric]

"Actual objectivity"

Sorry, since when is defending the belt = "championship belts"

Yeah real objective there.

Uh, every time a fighter wins a championship fight they either become, or retain, the #1 fighter in that weight division. How is physically counting those fights not objective lol? Conor has been the #1 fighter twice in his career. Max has been the #1 fighter four times in his career. The fights happened.

If you were acutally objective you'd realize that Cerrone was ranked 4th at LW during the Gaethje fight, so what was he ranked 4 months later at 170? You can't have it both ways. You can't be a delusional McGregor hater who says Cowboy is a lightweight, and then magically think Cowboy fell from 4 to unranked (or not top 10) after one fight.

In reality Cowboy was a top 10 win easily, and Diaz probably was too - not sure of rankings at time.

You don't get to have it both ways. When Nate Diaz defeated #1 ranked FW Conor McGregor at 170, he did not become the #1 FW in the world, nor did he gain Conor's FW championship belt. The reason for this is because the fight took place at WW. Nate defeating Conor at WW had no bearing on either fighters FW status just like it had no bearing on either fighters LW status. It was two unranked WWs fighting each other. If the UFC worked as you believe it does Nate Diaz would have a UFC belt on his mantle.

 

[No Skill Gap]

Uh, every time a fighter wins a championship fight they either become, or retain, the #1 fighter in that weight division. How is physically counting those fights not objective lol? Conor has been the #1 fighter twice in his career. Max has been the #1 fighter four times in his career. The fights happened.

You don't get to have it both ways. When Nate Diaz defeated #1 ranked FW Conor McGregor at 170, he did not become the #1 FW in the world, nor did he gain Conor's FW championship belt. The reason for this is because the fight took place at WW. Nate defeating Conor at WW had no bearing on either fighters FW status just like it had no bearing on either fighters LW status. It was two unranked WWs fighting each other.

Lmao everything you're saying is just so laughably disingenuous, no point in talking to you. Have fun with your delusional opinions.

Holloway has lost 5 times in the UFC, McGregor has lost twice. Holloway has moved up in weight once, and actually favorably fought a guy who used to fight at FW aka not a big LW. McGregor has fought a guy who used to fight at WW, at 170 (a ~big LW let's say, no cut), and Khabib a huge LW and extremely good fighter.

Defending the belt means something, it's important and that's McGregor's biggest flaw on his resume', but to insinuate that each defense is winning a new title is retarded.