When They Came To Fight (Pete Williams vs Mark Coleman)

[Natesblackshirt]

First “standing” headkick KO haha

 

[Klaavical]

You shouldn't lie on sherdog bro

 

[davidlemonparty]

First head kick KO from standing in UFC or Pride I believe...

It was actually the first KO ever in NHB, UFC , Pride or Vale Tudor history.

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Gilbert Yvel vs Gary Goodridge (Pride 10)

For my money, that's still the most brutal head kick KO. This was a more or less "prime" Goodridge that had an iron chin. Both fighters were very fresh and this was not only an instant KO with no follow up needed, but Goodridge was out cold for a minute or so if I recall correct.

 

[Bullitt68]

Match: Pete Williams (7-1) vs Mark Coleman (6-1)
Event: UFC 14 (7-27-1997)

Coleman/Williams was UFC 17, not UFC 14.

Coleman had won his first 6 UFC matches, beating some of the very best at the time in Don Frye, Dan Severn and Brian Johnston, before losing a tough match against Maurice Smith at UFC 13 (an upset at the time).

Coleman/Smith was UFC 14, not 13.

This fight ended allowing fighters to kick with shoes on

Actually, it had been prohibited in earlier events. Ken Shamrock was warned by BJM during his UFC 7 Superfight against Oleg Taktarov for kicking with shoes on.

Could you kick with shoes in pride?

That would be a yes

Were knees to the head of a downed opponent legal at this point in the UFC ?

Pretty sure they were and remained legal for a while after. At the very least, at UFC 18 while he was on his back Bas Rutten was kneeing Tsuyoshi Kohsaka to the head on the ground with no problems from BJM.

Was there a particular reason Coleman gassed so bad in this fight [...] Were there any training/life circumstances going on?

Well, he was notorious for gassing - it was really only the 2000 Pride GP where he trained his ass off that his conditioning was on point - but at the time of UFC 17 he was coming off of a long layoff during which time he had to bounce back from ACL surgery.

First head kick KO from standing in UFC or Pride I believe...

Limited to those two organizations, yes...

Gilbert Yvel vs Gary Goodridge (Pride 10)

...including preceding Yvel/Goodridge by two years...

It was actually the first KO ever in NHB, UFC , Pride or Vale Tudor history.

...but this is hopefully a joke. Interestingly enough, before Williams head kick KO'd Coleman, Maurice Smith head kick KO'd Conan Silveira in Extreme Fighting, but because Smith wasn't able to KO Coleman, he jokingly asked Williams in the cage after the Coleman fight to show him how to do that and Williams said he'd teach him sometime

 

[Congo66]

They were both gassed the fuck out within 5 minutes.
Saying they came to fight is a bit of a stretch, it's not like it was an all action 12 and a half minutes.

HW might be terrible now but Stipe could beat Coleman and Williams back to back on the same night.

 

[Glove]

Coleman/Williams was UFC 17, not UFC 14.



Coleman/Smith was UFC 14, not 13.



Actually, it had been prohibited in earlier events. Ken Shamrock was warned by BJM during his UFC 7 Superfight against Oleg Taktarov for kicking with shoes on.

That would be a yes



Pretty sure they were and remained legal for a while after. At the very least, at UFC 18 while he was on his back Bas Rutten was kneeing Tsuyoshi Kohsaka to the head on the ground with no problems from BJM.



Well, he was notorious for gassing - it was really only the 2000 Pride GP where he trained his ass off that his conditioning was on point - but at the time of UFC 17 he was coming off of a long layoff during which time he had to bounce back from ACL surgery.



Limited to those two organizations, yes...



...including preceding Yvel/Goodridge by two years...



...but this is hopefully a joke. Interestingly enough, before Williams head kick KO'd Coleman, Maurice Smith head kick KO'd Conan Silveira in Extreme Fighting, but because Smith wasn't able to KO Coleman, he jokingly asked Williams in the cage after the Coleman fight to show him how to do that and Williams said he'd teach him sometime

Thank you for the corrections Bullit.

 

[ifindgifsforjackslack]

Was there a particular reason Coleman gassed so bad in this fight?

Have seen him go longer in a fight without nearly as much difficulty.

Were there any training/life circumstances going on?

LOoks like those fence grabs. Basically got like five double legs in a row but was thwarted by the fence grabbing. When he finally got him down he had only like a minute to rest and was utterly fucked

 

[omawho402]

My fave part of that fight is "Petey Williams delivers! The Lion's Den victorious again!"