When people trash Jon Jones

[TrueFightFan]

Jones limbs are invulnerable as seen with his arm against a roided vitor

You must not have watched that fight or listened to their interviews afterwards.... jones says the lock was tight and he knew he was dead until he felt Vitor let up on it then he managed to wrench himself free.... Belfort said that he felt jones' arm "pop" and thought for sure that he would tap or the ref would stop it, so in the "name of sportsmanship" he let loose. He says that the next time, he will just go ahead and break the arm. His sportsmanship cost him the fight..... and I KNOW you are not going to call out Belfort for being busted on the juice.

 

[mirror45]

They used to trash him about this

 

[Pem123]

he is not the most skilled, but he is very skilled.

i don't think anyone has anything bad to say about his fighting abilities, even his worst enemy would admit that.


his action outside the cage is another separate matter.

 

[Huligani]

Change my mind

Can't change it because you are very decisive on the matter, plus you're right anyway.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Oh you mean when roided Jones fought a MW who had to roid to make 205

Isn’t this the same situation with Henderson vs fedor too?!?!?

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

The guy cheated... looked average vs OSP... then destroyed Cormier. Thought he had gotten straight. But he disappointed us... again.

 

[jeff7b9]

What in the world is there not to understand?

Fighting = strength, technique, stamina, power, durability.

PEDs literally aid every single one of those aside from technique.

How can you not improve while taking PEDs?

By recovering faster and allowing the athlete to push harder and perform more reps of whatever they happen to be working on, steroids can even help technique.

While the clean guy is recovering the PED user is still working.

 

[GTS]

Nobody doubts his skill, but he knew the risks involved with steroids and the advantage of those steroids was worth the risk to him. You can't say they weren't helping him else taking them would be a huge worthless risk. Also, show me a recent fight where he does not claw at his opponents eyes and prove he was clean and I will agree that his success is based solely on his skill and not to some degree on unfair advantages.

Also, labeling his trouble outside the cage as "Misfortunes" is outright dishonest. The word "misfortune" denotes LUCK was the main factor. It wasn't, his choices and actions were.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Majority posters here aren't Black and will hate on him just to boast their own..Fedor and or GSP

Because if we go by record, it's simply not possible to not have Jones at number 1

Nobody has beat those many ex-UFC (cream of the crop org) champions and actual contenders back to back in what was the most stacked weightclass at the time doing it

 

[Mookie]

They always talk about his PED use and misfortunes outside of the cage.

They never trash his actual fighting skill....

It's probably due to the fact his "actual fighting skill" is undetermined, and by proximity past performances undermined because he's a repeated cheater, and steroid abuser.

If this is true why don't bodybuilders sweep the sport

Talent>PEDs

I think you're right... Sadly Jon Jones doesn't agree. <45>

 

[Mookie]

Majority posters here aren't Black and will hate on him just to boast their own..Fedor and or GSP

Do you feel this way because this is how you operate? Or are you projecting these values onto "non-blacks" from an ivory tower of sorts?

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Do you feel this way because this is how you operate? Or are you projecting these values onto "non-blacks" from an ivory tower of sorts?

If someone was white and did what Jones did to their weightclass, they would be the best in the world to me

 

[Spacelord13]

He’s a scumbag. And how do you praise what he’s done inside the octagon, when he’s cheated to do it ?

Misfortunes... Is that what breaking the law is called by you kids today ?

 

[IloveTHIS]

He's not the most skilled. His boxing is basically and poses zero threat. He's only ever rocked like 1 person with a punch.

He fights dirty. Intentionally pokes opponents eyes. Steroids.

Jon is crafty and tough. He's kind of an mma genius. But he is the the result of a physically gifted guy taking steroids.

No roids and no eye pokes, he would have picked up a few loses.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

He's not the most skilled. His boxing is basically and poses zero threat. He's only ever rocked like 1 person with a punch.

He fights dirty. Intentionally pokes opponents eyes. Steroids.

Jon is crafty and tough. He's kind of an mma genius. But he is the the result of a physically gifted guy taking steroids.

No roids and no eye pokes, he would have picked up a few loses.

He didn't poke Shogun in the eyes before he made him tap to strikes. He also tested clean that fight

He almost K.Od him with the first knee he threw at the opening.

But undetected steroids helped him jump fast with proper timing to catch Shogun, right?

 

[Mookie]

If someone was white and did what Jones did to their weightclass, they would be the best in the world to me

So what you're saying is... You've never heard of Fedor, the guy who *didn't* get busted for PED's, and had a 10+ year reign at HW fighting guys who were bigger than him?

 

[IloveTHIS]

He didn't poke Shogun in the eyes before he made him tap to strikes. He also tested clean that fight

He almost K.Od him with the first knee he threw at the opening.

But undetected steroids helped him jump fast with proper timing to catch Shogun, right?

Holy shit it is so cringy when posters like you immediately jump to "YEA WELL YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER LOST A FIGHT!!!! SO I WIN!!!!!!1"

Not only that, but you're also just flat out wrong because Jon did poke him in the eyes, and also held his fingers millimeters from Shoguns eyes so he couldnt move forward with out getting poked more.

Yes he caught Shogun immediately with an incredible knee that many would have been knocked out from. Ok? What is your point?

Oh wait, are you one of those fucking retards that doesn't think steroids help you in hand to hand combat? LOL, oh you poor soul. "it doesnt help you develope tecnike though!"

You are to stupid to continue speaking to, because I know you are just going to continue shitposting.

"he tested clean that fight" fucking wow you are the stupidest poster I have encountered in seriously months.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

So what you're saying is... You've never heard of Fedor, the guy who *didn't* get busted for PED's, and had a 10+ year reign at HW fighting guys who were bigger than him?

1) Fedor fought in Pride where they didn't test

2) Fedor didn't fight top competition back to back like Jones

We can go through Fedor's record, he just simply didn't fight better competition than Jones.

UFC is by far the better organization with the better competition in Jones Era than compared to Fedor in the Pride era

Feel free to combat this statement

He had a great win streak and he is the goat HW but that's it

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Bitter bums who are looking for anything to discredit Jon because he beat all their favorite fighters

 

[Todd498]

Dude got his arm broken by a fucking mw. Vitor, who doesnt make excuses, said he let off on the armbar when he felt it break. Then he almost lost to fucking chael. Gus put him in the hospital. He never even fought his biggest threat in rumble cause he was too busy hitting pregnant chicks with a rental. Hes a bum

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