When people say Conor can knockout his opponent, do they not understand what they're admitting?

[SKITZADACTYL]

i wouldn't call having the best hands in MMA as being a " punchers chance " fighter.

 

[PROlogic]

Conor is a very good striker, not so good everywhere else.

He's like a poor mans Anderson Silva because Silva was more varied as a striker and actually had a great ground game, better cardio, more heart and willingness to fight.

Anderson feasted on low IQ brawlers who would blindly rush in like if they were paid to do so, and just give Anderson the "counters" on a silver platter. Now here is what happened when Anderson finally started fighting DISCIPLINED technical strikers who worked behind an educated jab and who fiented/misdirected their intentions/disrupted the timing of his basic rudimentary "counters" with fients etc

Failed PED tests or not, both Jones and Anderson are the 2 most over rated fighters in history. Only Ronda Rousey was as over rated as they are.


The real true GOAT is Gsp


Annnnd....

The real goat of modern drug tested UFC is Conor. Most of all his big wins were under USADA testing.

Conor is competing in actual talent rich stacked divisions against other actual elite fighters in their primes - and is impressively dominating superior levels of competition

Conor actually dominated an elite prospect who was bigger (at worst the same size) and who was younger in age

Holloway was still a young stud, and Conor himself was a young propsect.

Unlike Anderson, Conor actually stuffed takedowns from legit elite of the elite wrestlers

And unlike Anderson, Conor actually knocked out the elite wrestlers he faced, impressively and within under 2 rounds (Mendes being a far better more well rounded wrestler then anyone Anderson ever faced)

Conor's 1 win over Aldo alone>>>>>any win both Jones and Anderson ever had

Aldo was the p4p#1 and 10 years undefeated when Conor became the one to end Aldo's streak. Not one single Jones or Anderson win even comes close to that.


Never mind Conor beating the champion in the weight class above him. Something Anderson was too afraid to ever even attempt.


Conor and Gsp are the only current GOAT canidates who are 2 weight world champs....NOT Jones...Not Anderson

All time great LW Alvarez in his prime who was 28-4 when Conor took his belt

Jones and Anderson never dominated opponents like this, let alone a current champion above them who was in their prime (Anderson vs Forrest was a sham. Forrest was on xanax that fight plus Forrest was coming off a KO loss)


No one besides Gsp, has beaten more elite prime competition in their primes at the height of their runs, then Conor has.


Here are some more bonus examples of Conor's amazing defense, skill, countering, IQ - and in general, of just how superior Conor is to Anderson on every single possible level

Again, Conor is actually dominating SUPERIOR TALENTS in far more stacked talent rich divisions, far more impressively then Jones/Anderson ever did lower competition

Conor is pure skill, IQ, and finese - who's cleanly dominating other elite opponents in their primes

LHW (and MW during Anderson's "reign") were kiddie pools in comparison to the shark tanks of FW and LW.

GSP AND CONOR are the legit greatest

 

[ewww21]

Post above me is wack as shit. Imagine your GOAT being beat by Nate Diaz.

 

[Soul On Ice]

That isn't what a punchers chance is

2 strikers with one being the better technically but the other having massive power gives the power puncher the "punchers chance"

If they are standing Khabib is out-matched in every way

Your definition has Conor running through the FW division on a punchers chance every fight
LoL

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Jesus NOlogic your ctrl, c, and v key must be broken.

 

[ewww21]

That isn't what a punchers chance is

2 strikers with one being the better technically but the other having massive power gives the power puncher the "punchers chance"

If they are standing Khabib is out-matched in every way

Your definition has Conor running through the FW division on a punchers chance every fight
LoL

But in MMA, punchers chance has a different meaning.

No one answered this because there is no answer: What does Conor bring to the fight that Khabib can't solve by taking him down, besides power in the early rounds WHEN they are standing up?

 

[Soul On Ice]

But in MMA, punchers chance has a different meaning.

No one answered this because there is no answer: What does Conor bring to the fight that Khabib can't solve by taking him down, besides power in the early rounds WHEN they are standing up?

What does Khabib bring other than grappling?

Only has a grappler's chance I guess.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Tyson didn't just KO people tho. And he wouldn't look like a bum and doing it. He would destroy his opponents from start to finish and rarely gassed.

Conor gasses and in MMA, if you can only strike but your tank is shit, what else do you bring besides being dangerous the first 2 rounds? Explain how that isn't a punchers chance.

Mike Tyson never really showed any heart whatsoever in any fight. As soon as you stood up to him he was finished. And as soon as he faced fellow Hall of Fame fighters like Holyfield he got destroyed. I don’t think Tyson ever would’ve shown the heart that Conor did in that second Nate Diaz fight. Because as soon as you put some pressure on Tyson he fell apart. And while did Conor gas in that second fight he did find a second wind. He needed to in the last few rounds.

 

[ewww21]

What does Khabib bring other than grappling?

Only has a grappler's chance I guess.

Cardio, chin, pace, size, grappling, pressure, ability to dictate the fight, and not being a quitter.

Conor def has the hand speed, striking ability, and punching power. But fuck all else.

 

[Jarvan]

You're admitting he only has a puncher's chance. It was the narrative before the Floyd circus, that Conor only needed one shot and he could lose all the rounds and just get the KO.

That's not a good thing lmao. It's admitting his ways to win are very limited and imo discredit him as a fighter more than glorify his KO prowess.

So when everyone is parroting this same rhetoric that Conor only needs to connect one punch against Khabib even if he gets taken down and pounded out, they aren't even giving McGregor his due diligence.

That is literally the worst roundabout assumption I've ever seen. People say he can ko people because he ko's people.

 

[capnlarge]

So what you're saying is that all of Conor's wins are lucky?

 

[SuperNerd]

Lol.

 

[ewww21]

Mike Tyson never really showed any heart whatsoever in any fight. As soon as you stood up to him he was finished. And as soon as he faced fellow Hall of Fame fighters like Holyfield he got destroyed. I don’t think Tyson ever would’ve shown the heart that Conor did in that second Nate Diaz fight. Because as soon as you put some pressure on Tyson he fell apart. And while did Conor gas in that second fight he did find a second wind. He needed to in the last few rounds.

Good post. Tyson did fold to pressure and to fighters who could withstand his onslaught. It's also notable that Tyson fought alot of cans.

And he did fade if you kept the pressure. As to whether Conor has more heart than Tyson, I'd also agree. Tyson would either cheat, freak out, or lose if you could beat him.

Made me reconsider.

 

[TehJesus]

The nuthugger threads vastly outweighs the non nuthugger threads. Don't kid yourself.

Unless you only consider non nuthugger threads trash and nuthugger threads GOAT?

I just think dumb threads are dumb. I don't view everything through a Conor related prism, unlike the obsessed weirdos who can't post anything without either angrily throthing at the mouth or slavishly praising him.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Cardio, chin, pace, size, grappling, pressure, ability to dictate the fight, and not being a quitter.

Conor def has the hand speed, striking ability, and punching power. But fuck all else.

You just listed a bunch of attributes that can help his grappling, not another way he could beat Conor
Both are specialists and only have one path to victory...The ground or the feet


Only a grappler's chance for Khabib...Poor guy and everyone saying he will smesh his opponents on the ground don't understand they're are admitting that too.

 

[HHJ]

What does Khabib bring other than grappling?

Only has a grappler's chance I guess.

Striking when conor is put on all fours or up against thr cage or wherever it is that khabib has put him. Punches,elbows etc

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

In case you haven't seen his resume, he's finished 19 out of 21 of his victories all in the first two rounds... And 18 of those 19 were by KO/TKO.

A puncher's chance seems to be all that he needs.

 

[ewww21]

You just listed a bunch of attributes that can help his grappling, not another way he could beat Conor
Both are specialists and only have one path to victory...The ground or the feet


Only a grappler's chance for Khabib...Poor guy and everyone saying he will smesh his opponents on the ground don't understand they're are admitting that too.

If they had a fight where no punching or grappling was allowed and they could only run in circles, Khabib would still win based off those attributes alone lol.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Striking when conor is put on all fours or up against thr cage or wherever it is that khabib has put him. Punches,elbows etc

After a few rounds of heavy grappling, no?

 

[HHJ]

After a few rounds of heavy grappling, no?

Why does it have to be a few rounds? All he has to do is get conor in a position. That can happen instantly.