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When people say Conor can knockout his opponent, do they not understand what they're admitting?

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  1. ewww21 Purple Belt

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    You're admitting he only has a puncher's chance. It was the narrative before the Floyd circus, that Conor only needed one shot and he could lose all the rounds and just get the KO.

    That's not a good thing lmao. It's admitting his ways to win are very limited and imo discredit him as a fighter more than glorify his KO prowess.

    So when everyone is parroting this same rhetoric that Conor only needs to connect one punch against Khabib even if he gets taken down and pounded out, they aren't even giving McGregor his due diligence.
     
  2. ChumpyKiwi Brown Belt

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    Because they're right. Even the hardcore Conor fans admit this
     
  3. Zebra Cheeks 2Cheeks Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    So everyone that's ever been a knockout artist can be summed up as a "punchers chance". Great argument if your 4 years old
     
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  5. Sosua Yeah nah

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    To be fair, he has done reasonably well with these limitations to date.
     
  6. ewww21 Purple Belt

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    What else would Conor have over floyd tho. Good cardio? Nope lol.

    Willpower? Nah, he quits.

    There are great KO artists that don't have a punchers chance because they excel in other aspects of the sport. Rumble could rely on his wrestling, Silva had great TDD, ground game, and clinch game, etc.

    I could see if the running narrative revolved around his counter striker nature, use of distance, and precision. But it's never about that and even then, a grappler could just take him down.

    So what does he bring?
     
  7. Mysterio Banned Banned

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    Conor is a very good striker, not so good everywhere else.

    A very good MMA fighter, but not a great one because he's not well rounded enough.

    He's like a poor mans Anderson Silva because Silva was more varied as a striker and actually had a great ground game, better cardio, more heart and willingness to fight.

    There will always be a lot divisive, varying opinions on Conor's abilities, because his skillset itself is not very consistent.

    Casuals and lovers of striking will be drawn to him, as will insecure people who live vicariously through his braggadocio.
     
  8. The Mookster Green Belt

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    Lol did people forget he grapplefucked
    Max holloway after he tore his acl in a fight, still finding a way to win. He also decisioned Nate Diaz. So he has other ways to win. Obviously im not saying he’s going to grapplefuck Khabib but if Khabib cannot remain in too control for the entirety of the fight, conor can finish him, plain and simple.
     
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    a puncher's chance vs floyd and a puncher's chance vs khabob are two very different things, mate.
     
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    Just when you thinking you've seen the apex of dumb threads, something like this comes along.
     
  11. bigconan Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    That's like saying george foreman only had a punchers chance...he just happened to be the hardest heavyweight puncher of all time..has the highest ko % of any heavyweight in history...punchers chance can mean you beat just about everyone..unless your name is ali.
     
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  13. ewww21 Purple Belt

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    Except George Foreman was supposed to beat Ali not just because of his KO ability, but because Ali was old and on the verge of retirement, and George was a monstrous boxer who was faster, younger, stronger, and thought to be the better boxer at the time because of how well he did against Ali's own rival. Doesn't really translate well.

    Everyone who wasn't a Conor nut guzzler knew Conor didn't have anything on Floyd, and even his fans would say he can really only knock him out.
     
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    Everyone has a puncher's chance, even a bum behind a store has puncher's chance.
     
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    Stupid. When people said Mike Tyson could KO his opponents, do you think they only meant he had a mere puncher's chance?
     
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    Impressively stupid threads like this one are one of my reasons for coming back to this place
     
  17. laleggenda27 Brown Belt

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    I don't think you know what "due diligence" means.
     
  18. I WILL CUT YOU Calamity from the Heavens Platinum Member

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    Conor's use of distance and timing (in MMA, in boxing vs Floyd he had no chance) grants him far more opportunity to win than a "puncher's chance."

    TDD starts at the feet. Conor moves in and out superbly, similar to Machida. Khabib isn't really a blast double guy so I'm not sure he goes 100% on takedowns-- Conor could conceivably avoid some takedowns on distance management alone. The wide stance lets him move back quickly and cover a lot of ground.
     
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    The nuthugger threads vastly outweighs the non nuthugger threads. Don't kid yourself.

    Unless you only consider non nuthugger threads trash and nuthugger threads GOAT?
     
  20. ewww21 Purple Belt

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    Tyson didn't just KO people tho. And he wouldn't look like a bum and doing it. He would destroy his opponents from start to finish and rarely gassed.

    Conor gasses and in MMA, if you can only strike but your tank is shit, what else do you bring besides being dangerous the first 2 rounds? Explain how that isn't a punchers chance.
     

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