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If your list includes PED users than you can very easily make a case he’s the best fighter ever. Lifetime drug free status it’s GSP, Fedor.
Dude, he took so much Turinabol that it was still in his system YEARS LATER according to him and Dana. Maybe he shouldn't have done that, maybe he kept microdosing it but there it is, so yeah it's a failed test, why wouldn't it be unless you make up some crazy unproven science to excuse itFinally someone else gets it! The "pulsing" didn't count as failed tests.
(A) Fedor didn't "dodge" by not going to the UFC. During Pride, Affliction and Strikeforce years, the UFC HW division was not the best out there. He was THE GOAT and the main draw in MMA. Dana was unwilling to make him an offer commensurate with his status and earning power. There was absolutely no reason for Fedor to bend over for Dana, just because Dana ran the UFC.People often view Fedor with rose colored glasses and focus on his earlier career in pride rather than his subsequent decline and dodging top level competition in mma by not going to UFC.
He is hailed as a great for his early career domination and not his late career fall into obscurity.
Jones has been on a similar trend, a dominant early and mid career and a late career of few fights and allegations of dodging the best ( like Fedor did by not coming to UFC ).
Once Jones finally retires will he be hailed as a great or will people be biased and only focus on his late career decline?
No, that's not what Dana said, that's not what Jones said, it's not what USADA and the medical science folks said, either.Dude, he took so much Turinabol that it was still in his system YEARS LATER according to him and Dana. Maybe he shouldn't have done that, maybe he kept microdosing it but there it is, so yeah it's a failed test, why wouldn't it be unless you make up some crazy unproven science to excuse it
The only people spouting complete idiocy are the ones who came up with 'pulsing': Jon, Dana, Novitzky, and USADA who went along with it. If a drugs in your system then a drugs in your system period. It doesn't matter and shouldn't matter if you've been busted for the same thing before. That's just a license to dope, which is what they gave Jones.No, that's not what Dana said, that's not what Jones said, it's not what USADA and the medical science folks said, either.
It's not a failed test when there's no evidence of subsequent use since already being sanctioned for having it in his system. Which is why he wasn't sanctioned for failing the subsequent tests.
Fuck, 10000 threads about this, and people are still spouting complete idiocy about what happened.
You do know Cain Velasquez only had one fight in Strikeforce…..right? His first pro bout dating back to 06. Cain Velasquez is a UFC fighter, he was not in Strikeforce when Fedor went there and he didn’t come over because of the buyout, he was in already in the UFC. Mir, Gonzaga, JDS, Couture, Lesnar, Noguiera, Cro Cop, Carwin, Hunt. Compared to Overeem, Werdum, Barnett, Cormier, Kharitonov, Big Foot, Arlovski. It’s a bit of a myth that Strikeforce had the better HW’s at the time, essentially they all became competitive with each other when they did fight all fight.Until the later part of Fedor's career he was fighting in the division with the best fighters. Strikeforce had a more proven Heavyweight division that the UFC did at the time, Cain, and DC both came over and became champs there. What was the alternative? Shane Carwin and Brock?
I dont care hes a bad person, im not looking for a role model lol. What i hate about jon is he tries so hard to to make it seem like hes a good person... Just own up to the fact your a scumbag. Doing coke during the week and still beat mfers up in the ring, thats some badass stuff. Thats like putting yourself in quite the disadvantage..fedor seems like a nice fella who keeps his nose clean and doesn't do hit n runs n stuff. Jones seems like a bad person. That's all i really care about as far as who i respect. I don't really care how good someone was or is if they're a scummy person. That's my take, i can't speak for others.
Everyone was using in PRIDE, it was allowed.Do you even doubt for a second Fedor used PED in pride?