when is a weight advantage a weight advantage?

[machomang]

i'm about 180, white belt, and i notice i start to struggle with guys when they are about 20 lbs heavier than me.

i'm sure it's tougher for lower weight classes to deal with guys who have a smaller weight advantage, or is it?? anyways, what's the weight advantage you guys start to struggle with?

 

[snakeybizz]

for me the sweet spot is around 30 - 40lbs I notice that the guy is beast...but also its work the other way round, rolling with someone 30 - 40 less then me I feel "big" I'm 5 ft 7 and 180.

But I wouldn't say I struggle with the weight advantage even though I only do no gi, I personally struggle vs certain body types or styles as opposed to straight up weight, Mainly long thin people

 

[Shemhazai]

A weight advantage is a weight advantage when it is a weight advantage.

 

[El Patron77]

A weight advantage is a weight advantage when it is a weight advantage.

^^this

 

[golvmopp]

I've rolled with guys who've outweighed me by 45lbs - me being 220lbs - who've felt fairly light, and against 180lbers who've felt like a ton of bricks.

It's all in the technique and how you use your weight - actual weight is merely a factor in the equation.

 

[Bret Griffin]

Although my long limbs seem to help me deal with a weight advantage (to a point) at 150(ish) pounds, 30 pounds of disadvantage the roll begins to look significantly different. But, partners and opponents like that tend to reveal the strong points of your game like nothing else.

 

[p4p503error**]

When you can't get off your back.

 

[Dogstarman]

When the heavy guy is better than you technically.

 

[bringbacklife]

all in the hips

 

[armtriangle]

With guys at my own level, I "feel" like I am at a disadvantage with about 40 or 50 pounds. Anything less than that, and I consider us "basically the same size". I'm 210# so I don't even think about it unless they guy is 250# +

 

[berimBOWLoh]

a weight advantage is always a weight advantage. thats why they have weight classes.

 

[armtriangle]

a weight advantage is always a weight advantage. thats why they have weight classes.

But even within a weigh class, you can have 20 pounds between people in the same weight class. In UHW, I have seen 100# + weight discrepancies.

 

[j123]

Usually about 30-40lbs

 

[Bret Griffin]

i'm sure it's tougher for lower weight classes to deal with guys who have a smaller weight advantage

In my experience that has been the case. In the lower weight classes each pound holds more significance proportionately.

 

[iKOdMyself]

Depends on the person, but usually around 20+ kilos or 50+ pounds I feel like I'm fucked. :icon_chee

 

[FinBJJ]

Anyone who beats you automatically has a weight advantage.

 

[middleaged]

When you are lighter and getting your ass kicked it's a weight advantage, when you are heavier and kicking ass it's not a weight advantage duh

 

[400lbKneeOnFace]

I have never rolled with someone whose weight / strength has caused me to struggle / condense my game but really probably about 20lb is a noticeable difference. 50lb weight disadvantage = sh*t just got real.

 

[Carl Drogo]

When I started Jiu Jitsu maybe 6 years ago I was 6'3" 165ish lbs. I then took a 4ish year break during which time I started lifting weights regularly and eating more (thanks strength sub-forum). I came back about a month ago at 190lbs and the difference in being able to maintain side control and mount is NIGHT and DAY.

Not to mention when I try and move somebody, they actually move now. Size and strength is important, all other things being equal.

 

[RJ Green]

when you're losing :icon_chee