when is a weight advantage a weight advantage?

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  1. machomang

    machomang Blue Belt

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    i'm about 180, white belt, and i notice i start to struggle with guys when they are about 20 lbs heavier than me.

    i'm sure it's tougher for lower weight classes to deal with guys who have a smaller weight advantage, or is it?? anyways, what's the weight advantage you guys start to struggle with?
     
  2. snakeybizz

    snakeybizz Purple Belt

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    for me the sweet spot is around 30 - 40lbs I notice that the guy is beast...but also its work the other way round, rolling with someone 30 - 40 less then me I feel "big" I'm 5 ft 7 and 180.

    But I wouldn't say I struggle with the weight advantage even though I only do no gi, I personally struggle vs certain body types or styles as opposed to straight up weight, Mainly long thin people
     
  3. Shemhazai

    Shemhazai Black Belt

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    A weight advantage is a weight advantage when it is a weight advantage.
     
  4. El Patron77

    El Patron77 White Belt

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    ^^this :D
     
  5. golvmopp

    golvmopp Always outnumbered, never outgunned

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    I've rolled with guys who've outweighed me by 45lbs - me being 220lbs - who've felt fairly light, and against 180lbers who've felt like a ton of bricks.

    It's all in the technique and how you use your weight - actual weight is merely a factor in the equation.
     
  6. Bret Griffin

    Bret Griffin Blue Belt

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    Although my long limbs seem to help me deal with a weight advantage (to a point) at 150(ish) pounds, 30 pounds of disadvantage the roll begins to look significantly different. But, partners and opponents like that tend to reveal the strong points of your game like nothing else.
     
  7. p4p503error**

    p4p503error** White Belt

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    When you can't get off your back.
     
  8. Dogstarman

    Dogstarman Old man jiu jitsu

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    When the heavy guy is better than you technically.
     
  9. bringbacklife

    bringbacklife Blue Belt

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    all in the hips
     
  10. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    With guys at my own level, I "feel" like I am at a disadvantage with about 40 or 50 pounds. Anything less than that, and I consider us "basically the same size". I'm 210# so I don't even think about it unless they guy is 250# +
     
  11. berimBOWLoh

    berimBOWLoh Silver Belt

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    a weight advantage is always a weight advantage. thats why they have weight classes.
     
  12. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    But even within a weigh class, you can have 20 pounds between people in the same weight class. In UHW, I have seen 100# + weight discrepancies.
     
  13. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    Usually about 30-40lbs
     
  14. Bret Griffin

    Bret Griffin Blue Belt

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    In my experience that has been the case. In the lower weight classes each pound holds more significance proportionately.
     
  15. iKOdMyself

    iKOdMyself Blue Belt

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    Depends on the person, but usually around 20+ kilos or 50+ pounds I feel like I'm fucked. :icon_chee
     
  16. FinBJJ

    FinBJJ Black Belt

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    Anyone who beats you automatically has a weight advantage.
     
  17. middleaged

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    When you are lighter and getting your ass kicked it's a weight advantage, when you are heavier and kicking ass it's not a weight advantage duh
     
  18. 400lbKneeOnFace

    400lbKneeOnFace Orange Belt

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    I have never rolled with someone whose weight / strength has caused me to struggle / condense my game but really probably about 20lb is a noticeable difference. 50lb weight disadvantage = sh*t just got real.
     
  19. Carl Drogo

    Carl Drogo #DeleShaggedHer

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    When I started Jiu Jitsu maybe 6 years ago I was 6'3" 165ish lbs. I then took a 4ish year break during which time I started lifting weights regularly and eating more (thanks strength sub-forum). I came back about a month ago at 190lbs and the difference in being able to maintain side control and mount is NIGHT and DAY.

    Not to mention when I try and move somebody, they actually move now. Size and strength is important, all other things being equal.
     
  20. RJ Green

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    when you're losing :icon_chee
     

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