My question is simple. Because there are many many many many many threads out there about "x fighter going to be the next have his hype train de-rail". So my question is this....When does it stop being "hype"? Because a lot of fighters supposedly on the "hype train", are already highly successful fighters. People like Jon Jones[current champion w/ 4 successful defenses], Jose Aldo[current champion], Junior Dos Santos[Former Champion], Cain Valesquez[2x Champion]. Can it be hype if you're already successful? Hype to me, means someone who is unproven, or who is getting a lot of attention despite not having accomplished anything, or very little.
Not only because you are a champ means you are not hyped.
Lesnar is a prime example of Hype-train even though he was a champ with successful title defenses.
But I would say that, in order to not be hype, a fighter needs to be tested.
take Tim Boetsch.
he beat Okami. but he was losing badly before that.
Then he beat Hector in an odd fight where Hecotr claimed he was injured, etc.
IMO he needed one more fight against a good fighter to prove to me he belonged among the top.
but it has to be two-sided.
For instance, i discount the fact he injured himself against Philippou. So I'll wait for the next fight to show me if there's something to it or it was just luck/hype that got him into top 5 of the division....
Same for Jones.
Now, I don't consider him hype. But I am still waiting for someone to crack his puzzle and make him fight through adversity. If he can beat someone that can neutralize his range/gameplan and forces him to "just fight", I'll jump the bandwaggon (so to speak).
note: I am not saying he is not an elite fighter. That he proved. The above are my feelings toward considering him GOAT or among the greats (for those tho cringes when GOAT is mentioned)