When did the left become a hate group?

[EGarrett]

They obviously disliked Bush, but even that largely was just a bunch of late-night jokes. But sometime in the last 10 years, it seems like something happened to them. I don't recall them being so viciously hateful towards men, white people, business owners, America, gun owners, straight people, MMA (per Meryl Streep) and so many other things.

Was it always there, was it a gradual slide, or was there a specific event that flipped the switch?

Perhaps the election of Obama put the pro-minority and (eventually due to his policies) anti-war and anti-goverment spying movements to bed, leaving only the destructive element to speak up?

Maybe the passage of gay marriage and (the beginning of) legalization of marijuana silenced the personal freedom branch?

Could it have been the police killings of black men? Which led to the hyper-enflamed BlackLivesMatter situation?

Or maybe it was Occupy Wall Street? Which I presume sprung from the financial crisis?

 

[nac386]

Read the Boy Scouts thread. Or any thread about hispanics or Muslims. There is plenty of irrational disgust from both sides of the aisle.

People just pick a side and act outraged by anything that does not align with their beliefs.

 

[...El Ray]

November 9th, 2016

 

[Rational Poster]

They obviously disliked Bush, but even that largely was just a bunch of late-night jokes. But sometime in the last 10 years, it seems like something happened to them. I don't recall them being so viciously hateful towards men, white people, business owners, America, gun owners, straight people, MMA (per Meryl Streep) and so many other things.

Was it always there, was it a gradual slide, or was there a specific event that flipped the switch?

Perhaps the election of Obama put the pro-minority and (eventually) anti-war movements to bed, leaving only the destructive element to speak up?

Maybe the passage of gay marriage and (the beginning of) legalization of marijuana silenced the personal freedom branch?

Could it have been the police killings of black men? Which led to the hyper-enflamed BlackLivesMatter situation?

Or maybe it was Occupy Wall Street? Which I presume sprung from the financial crisis?

The left isn't a hate group, the conservatives have just become insufferable pussies under Obama.

 

[Yellowking]

When did the right become a hate group? Broad generalizations are boring

 

[Lanx]

Read the Boy Scouts thread. Or any thread about hispanics or Muslims. There is plenty of irrational disgust from both sides of the aisle.

People just pick a side and act outraged by anything that does not align with their beliefs.

da fuq? boy scout thread seems pretty fair, since i'm monitoring it and a former Boy Scout

 

[KantoTerror]

We're in the 201st century...people just feel more entitiled....left & right...take a look at your surroundings....it's just fucked up now...gone are the days when cyclists and pedestrians respect the roads...

 

[KONE]

Read the Boy Scouts thread. Or any thread about hispanics or Muslims. There is plenty of irrational disgust from both sides of the aisle.

People just pick a side and act outraged by anything that does not align with their beliefs.

How is complaining about transgenders in boy scouts (child abuse) "hispanics" (presumably illegal aliens) and Muslims (Islam - a horrible, hateful, lethal religion) irrational though? Isn't that kind of different than blaming white people for all of your problems and assaulting people?

 

[EGarrett]

When did the right become a hate group? Broad generalizations are boring

The right COULD become a hate group towards Middle Eastern or Latin American people in the next year or two. But now they're mostly united around repealing Obamacare and awkwardly looking at Trump.

 

[ehtheist]

"The Left" never did. The left is a vibrant and necessary part of the Western World's ideological makeup and is, itself, a spectrum which encompasses a range of extremes. It is exceptionally small minded to lump "The left" in as a hate group.

That being said, one of the greatest and all but unacknowledged issues that the left bloc has in our ideological landscape is that many of its spokespeople, vocal and respected interest groups, are bordering on hate groups. Their rhetoric is designed in such a way to normalize hatred of groups under the guise of love/tolerance and whatnot and, a wolf in sheep's clothing, is setting the stage for wide scale devaluation of entire demographics of people. This being the case, while "the left" is not a hate group, the borderline hate groups in the left are given *far* too much legitimacy, and their clever rhetorical cover lets them preach hate without the left at large recognizing them as hatemongers.

"The left" isn't a hate group - but "the left" has to wake up and not let hatred grow on its fertile ideological soil. Right now, they're fertilizing rather than pulling weeds. Contrast this to the right where their brand of hatred is called out and attacked at every turn - for the most part... But, as a culture, we have learned hard lessons about right oriented hatred and are conditioned to be vigilant for it, and I very much hope that we aren't gearing up to be taught similarly hard lessons about left oriented hatred.

 

[EGarrett]

"The Left" never did. The left is a vibrant and necessary part of the Western World's ideological makeup and is, itself, a spectrum which encompasses a range of extremes. It is exceptionally small minded to lump "The left" in as a hate group.

That being said, one of the greatest and all but unacknowledged issues that the left bloc has in our ideological landscape is that many of its spokespeople, vocal and respected interest groups, are bordering on hate groups. Their rhetoric is designed in such a way to normalize hatred of groups under the guise of love/tolerance and whatnot and, a wolf in sheep's clothing, is setting the stage for wide scale devaluation of entire demographics of people. This being the case, while "the left" is not a hate group, the borderline hate groups in the left are given *far* too much legitimacy, and their clever rhetorical cover lets them preach hate without the left at large recognizing them as hatemongers.

"The left" isn't a hate group - but "the left" has to wake up and not let hatred grow on its fertile ideological soil. Right now, they're fertilizing rather than pulling weeds. Contrast this to the right where their brand of hatred is called out and attacked at every turn - for the most part... But, as a culture, we have learned hard lessons about right oriented hatred, and I very much hope that we aren't gearing up to be taught similarly hard lessons about left oriented hatred.

The good side of the left was the one that promoted personal privacy and freedom, international peace, and focused on building up the downtrodden. I think this side "won" in the last few years since most of their policies were put into place and likely will stay in place, and Obama, their dream politician, made them forget about peace and some of the other things.

I suspect that combination of mollifying that constructive part, along with Occupy Wall Street introducing the idea of scapegoating and public demonstration, combined with everything around BlackLivesMatter heating things up to a violent boil, was the key combination.

 

[Stoic1]

I see the "hate" from the right manifesting itself in frustration that led to votes. I see the "hate" from the left manifesting itself in actual violence.

 

[nac386]

How is complaining about transgenders in boy scouts (child abuse) "hispanics" (presumably illegal aliens) and Muslims (Islam - a horrible, hateful, lethal religion) irrational though? Isn't that kind of different than blaming white people for all of your problems and assaulting people?

If I posted like you, this would be my response:

How is recognizing flaws in our justice system, peacefully protesting, and demanding equal rights for all of our citizens irrational?? Isn't that kind of different than spewing hate at young children with identity issues, scapegoating hard working Hispanics for financial woes created by wealthy American corporations, and demonizing hard working Muslim immigrant families who are just trying to provide a better life for their children?

Everything you say begins with an opinion, stated as a fact, followed by an exaggeration. Then you end with a question that is impossible to answer because of the ridiculous set-up you provided. I would have to deconstruct your entire post in order to answer your question.

I'll give you this short answer. Allowing a girl to be in boy scouts is not child abuse by any legal definition of the term, Hispanics get a ton of shit on this site and not only the undocumented ones, and Muslims are not inherently horrible, hateful, and lethal.

And I have never met anybody who blames all their problems on white people, and goes around assaulting them. Making a statement that ridiculous is pretty much like me bringing up Dylan Roof and that Canadian guy to say that right wingers are mass-murdering black people and Muslims.

You created so many hoops to jump through there that it is impossible to talk to you.

 

[Metusalemi]

It might have to do with how the millenials have been raised.

People leaning to the right tend to have traditional family values and traditional way of rearing their kids. Some do a good job, some do a bad job.

The left side on the other hand have been doing all kinds of "new" things with their kids. Trying out new things often has results you didn't expect.

 

[Gunny]

They obviously disliked Bush, but even that largely was just a bunch of late-night jokes. But sometime in the last 10 years, it seems like something happened to them. I don't recall them being so viciously hateful towards men, white people, business owners, America, gun owners, straight people, MMA (per Meryl Streep) and so many other things.

Was it always there, was it a gradual slide, or was there a specific event that flipped the switch?

Perhaps the election of Obama put the pro-minority and (eventually due to his policies) anti-war and anti-goverment spying movements to bed, leaving only the destructive element to speak up?

Maybe the passage of gay marriage and (the beginning of) legalization of marijuana silenced the personal freedom branch?

Could it have been the police killings of black men? Which led to the hyper-enflamed BlackLivesMatter situation?

Or maybe it was Occupy Wall Street? Which I presume sprung from the financial crisis?

It all coincides with their abandonment of the working class and double down strategy on identity issues. Also, since that strategy is blowing up in their face, they are particularly on edge and cracking up.

 

[KONE]

If I posted like you, this would be my response:

How is recognizing flaws in our justice system, peacefully protesting, and demanding equal rights for all of our citizens irrational?? Isn't that kind of different than spewing hate at young children with identity issues, scapegoating hard working Hispanics for financial woes created by wealthy American corporations, and demonizing hard working Muslim immigrant families who are just trying to provide a better life for their children?

Everything you say begins with an opinion, stated as a fact, followed by an exaggeration. Then you end with a question that is impossible to answer because of the ridiculous set-up you provided. I would have to deconstruct your entire post in order to answer your question.

You gave 3 specific examples that were a false equivalency and nothing like the vile hatred coming from the left. You also used the word "irrational." I've yet to see anyone here say all of Muslims are bad, all Hispanics are bad, or anything remotely close to it. You're just talking in absolutes which is what the left did in the first place and got themselves into the mess they're in now.

The 3 things you listed are actually worth complaining about, not things that are irrational. The OP listed things that are the focus of a metric fuck ton of leftists which are actually irrational. It's irrational to blame white people for almost everything, it's irrational to blame males for almost everything, this entire "cis white male" shit going around is irrational.

I'll give you this short answer. Allowing a girl to be in boy scouts is not child abuse by any legal definition of the term, Hispanics get a ton of shit on this site and not only the undocumented ones, and Muslims are not inherently horrible, hateful, and lethal.

Being transgender is a mental illness. Trying to push your child towards something (which is going to happen the more it gets normalized) which is a mental illness is certainly child abuse. Yes, it's worth complaining about. I also didn't see anything overly stupid in the boy scout thread you told people to go to that would fall under the category of "irrational disgust."

Hispanics almost entirely get shit for being illegal. I have no idea what you're referencing when you say legal hispanics get shit around here. No one thinks Muslims are inherently horrible, I and many others have stated multiple times there is a such thing as moderate Muslims. The problem are Islamists that kill/rape people, and the ones that are supposedly "moderate" yet want Sharia Law to rule the nation.

And I have never met anybody who blames all their problems on white people, and goes around assaulting them.

You created so many hoops to just through there that it is impossible to talk to you.

I understand trying to break down a liberals point of view is a difficult task.

To sum up since apparently I'm "creating too many hoops," what exactly is irrational about the 3 things you listed? You are aware people here OVERWHELMINGLY have a problem with illegal immigrants, Islam, and transgender children being normalized, right? How is that irrational again?

 

[ripskater]

I think Obama was so loony and he gave all the fringe loony leftist groups more voice in the party with all the Islam loving, tranny agenda and the anti law enforcement, racist black lives matter agenda

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

It was never about equality. It was about getting what they wanted for their side under the false campaign of equality.

The true colors came out when they didn't get what they wanted.

 

[ripskater]

It was never about equality. It was about getting what they wanted for their side under the false campaign of equality.

The true colors came out when they didn't get what they wanted.

Much of the left is just really angry at traditional values. The things that made us great, God, family and country.

 

[Rational Poster]

I see the "hate" from the right manifesting itself in frustration that led to votes. I see the "hate" from the left manifesting itself in actual violence.

You have no idea what's coming this midterms do you?

Millions of pissed off democrats, that's what.