When Brock Lesnar first came to the UFC, did he impress you?

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  1. SpongebobsPineapple

    SpongebobsPineapple The 90's Rulez

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    Ok so I know Brock's seen as a pretty legit dude anyway but anyone coming from WWE they're always going to have that stigma about them or people being sceptical at least which I understand completely.

    Of course CM Punk didn't really impress but props to him for getting inside the cage and giving it a go, however Brock obviously did much better so when you look back at his first impression in the Octagon for you did he do better than you expected or was it no surprise to you?

    I'm no WWE fan by any means but I know they do have a lot of legit talent there, Wade Barrett was a bare knuckle fighter previously so he has some fundamentals at least also if he wanted to train for a career instead of WWE back then but how did you feel about Brock and his time in the octagon?

    I'd be interested to hear this as obviously I wasn't on the forum at the time so I have no idea how his fared up in regards to people's expectations.
     
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    613 Gold Belt

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    How could he not impress you? Yes he got rushed to a title fight, but he hardly had any training and beat some great fighters. He may not ever have been the best HW in the world and his fans were idiots, but what he did with such a short amount of time training was impressive
     
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    Only Here for Attachments Stipe Justice Warrior

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    The first Mir fight was the hardest I'd laughed at MMA back then. Second Mir fight was impressive.
     
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    I expected a finish by shooting star press so to be fair it was all a bit of a letdown...
     
  5. SpongebobsPineapple

    SpongebobsPineapple The 90's Rulez

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    Yeah, it all depends on how much you know/knew about Brock before he got in there, I mean more so from the perspective of knowing he came from WWE and how you (individually) felt at the time about it and expected to see.

    Some people may have known nothing, some people may have known a lot about him, so it really is down to how people saw it first time round.

    Remember I'm talking from when you first saw him, not from when he beat some great fighters etc... first impression/first fight you saw of his.
     
  6. SpongebobsPineapple

    SpongebobsPineapple The 90's Rulez

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    There you go @613, see that's what I mean, it depends on the individual and what they expected before they first saw him fight.

    Thanks @Only Here for Attachments for that, appreciate it :)

    Haha, think he was a bit tired lol
     
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    Naught2Sixty Black Belt

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    I was definitely impressed at how good Brocks doctor kept him in good health.






















    Horse meat.
     
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    For his size, his athleticism impressed me. Fight wise, he was clearly a one-trick pony. Nothing wrong with that. The early Gracies made a killing off of their one skill. For the UFC to cash in, he had to be rushed into the title picture before fighters with sufficient wrestling skills showed how to beat him.
     
  9. SpongebobsPineapple

    SpongebobsPineapple The 90's Rulez

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    Yeah this is true, been some great replies now, thank you :)

    And yeah you're right about the cash in thing for sure, makes perfect sense for them too from that perspective to do this because they've obviously paid money for him so they want to make it back and some so yeah, I hear you :)
     
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    HereticBD Titanium Belt

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    Yes, even after his rookie mistake loss, you knew that guy could hang, moved like no other HW his size and was going to be a handful for a lot of top guys.
     
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    HI SCOTT NEWMAN Steel Belt Cat ✔

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    Yes, I saw him fight against Kim and he beat him easily and quickly, but it was not a big test, so when he came to UFC I was still dubious, but his first fight he beat the shit out of Mir, I know it only lasted a few minutes but he was dominating easily and that stupid moron ref Steve Mazzagatti stopped the fight when Brock was hitting Mir, saying that Brock was hitting the back off the head, which was such a BS call. I could see Brock would be dangerous for anyone.

    Then he beat Herring to near death, then stopped Couture, then beat Mir to death in the rematch, but then he had that huge stomach illness where he had to have surgery, it took a lot out of him and he nearly died. Came back and beat Carwin, showed huge heart in it and never ever quit, then tapped Carwin out. He then was dominating Cain, if you actually watch that fight Brock was winning, took Cain down twice, but then Cain caufght him with a good right and then Brock went spinning. But this was all post the surgery.

    I still thought if Brock comes back he can beat a lot of the UFC HW's, a lot of them are awful. when I was watching Stipe vs Ngannou, I kept thinking if that was Brock on top then the fight would have been over ages ago and no decision, Ngannou had no clue what to do on the ground and he was doing everything wrong, you could see how raw and amateurish he was in the wrestling, Brock would have smashed his face though the mat that night I believe.
     
  12. SpongebobsPineapple

    SpongebobsPineapple The 90's Rulez

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    Yeah, I also thought he was pretty agile for his size too, one of the things that stood out for me was that.

    Amazing post!! Thank you, honestly some great responses here now and you guys are great! :)

    Brock had a lot of trouble with his stomach didn't he, I think he went back to WWE at some point and ended up hurting at an event there, I'm not sure where that was on the timeline with surgery etc.. but I remember hearing something about that, he did definitely as you say there and also they wanted the whole Cormier and Brock thing didn't they but he wasn't coming back, that said I much prefer the Stipe situation now too but that would have been interesting.

    I do wonder how the DC fight would have gone you know, it would have been interesting to see.
     
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    Yes, for sure. He manhandled Mir, and he arguably could have won if not for the referee interference.
     
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    Easily one of the worst point deductions in UFC history. One little rabbit punch in a flurry, and Maz steps in with no warning at all. Can't tell me there was no bias in that call.
     
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    Hard to say no really, he crushed many veterans with pure power and aggression.

    Brock era was Brocktastic!

    <{JustBleed}>
     
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    Brocks an interesting case. HIghly overrated and underrated depending who you ask.

    He was pretty impressive. He had only one mma fight and he was all over Frank Mir, then looked solid in his next two. He got a lot done with little experience in a short amount of time.

    But I also think his ceiling wasn't as high as some people think.
     
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    Yes great tapping skills.
     
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    Brock is not a fighter.
     
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    Sometimes I don't understand their shenanigans until I'm onto them. Dana wanted the best of both worlds or he wouldn't have thrown a novice like that to a submission specialist like Mir. We got the "He just can't come into the UFC and think he can win" followed by "this guy can be the greatest HW ever" spiel by the pink goof. Similar to the Kimbo fiasco where Dana talks out both sides of his mouth when he's seeing $$$$. With that said I was entertained by the guy. The Carwin fight where he weathered the storm and subbed him was kind of impressive.
     
  20. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah Black Belt

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    It was a weak division, but for him to just come in and beat vets like Heath Herring, Couture and Mir... yeah, that was impressive. Also the resiliency he showed against Carwin... very impressive!
     

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