What's the worse defeat - lose belt to next contender, or hold out for Ronda and lose belt to her?

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Im being sceptical. Maybe naturally both Holly and Miesha wanted to continue fighting because holding out for Ronda would be an indefinite period of waiting. But part of me wonders if they don't hold out for Ronda because they're scared she'll come back guns blazing and kick their asses. Maybe Holly didn't want a one-hit-wonder label, and Miesha, she's already suffered two losses at the hands of Ronda, so that goes without saying. As I say I'm being very sceptical, but anyhow, is it worse to lose your belt to a lower ranking fighter who doesn't have the notoriety of Ronda, or, would holding out for Ronda and having her kick your ass be worse?
 
Im being sceptical. Maybe naturally both Holly and Miesha wanted to continue fighting because holding out for Ronda would be an indefinite period of waiting. But part of me wonders if they don't hold out for Ronda because they're scared she'll come back guns blazing and kick their asses. Maybe Holly didn't want a one-hit-wonder label, and Miesha, she's already suffered two losses at the hands of Ronda, so that goes without saying. As I say I'm being very sceptical, but anyhow, is it worse to lose your belt to a lower ranking fighter who doesn't have the notoriety of Ronda, or, would holding out for Ronda and having her kick your ass be worse?
Lower ranked is worse and Ronda is a bigger pay day.
 
Holm wanted to stay busy instead of waiting for over a year whereas Tate handpicked Nunes as a "stay busy" fight because she thought she could weather the storm which proved to be untrue. Losing to a contender would probably be worse than losing to Rousey for Tate because everybody expects her to lose to Rousey so there isn't much pressure.
 
It's worse to tap to a RNC that is above your chin. That's just plain giving up when you aren't even being choked. Conor gets so much crap for tapping but at least he was getting choked for real, not just tapping because Tate had no heart.
 
It's worst to be given a title shot when the champ could have waited for Ronda rematch and a bigger pay day, then be on your way to losing that title match if not for a desperate TD and RNC, then not give that champ a rematch in return, then hand pick an opponent so that you can defend your the belt, and then lose to that person you underestimated by that same way you won the belt, by RNC.
 
It's worse to tap to a RNC that is above your chin. That's just plain giving up when you aren't even being choked. Conor gets so much crap for tapping but at least he was getting choked for real, not just tapping because Tate had no heart.

And Holly went to sleep...

More heart than the other two combined.
 
Ronda would never have fought Holly a second time, she's too weak mentally and just the thought of a rematch puts her on the edge of committing suicide.
 
Have any of you defended a choke?
You can't measure someone's fighting spirit by watching from a distance.
The difference between a choke that will finish you and one that's not gonna do it can be, and often is, a matter of a quick second and a minor adjustment.

You can feel like you can escape it, or your opponent doesn't really have it, then the next thing you know you're being woken up.
 
Tate was doomed. Face Holm again and lose, wait Ronda and lose again. So she took the supposedly "easier" route and paid for it. She was too chicken to fight Holm again, that shows how much of a champion she is. Wanted to add defenses to her name to fight ronda again maybe. Too bad her nose now might look like a storm drain
 
losing is bad no matter to whom you lose.
 
I don't think Holly was afraid to lose to Rhonda...she straight up put Ronda out of commission. In fact to this day you can still hear the faint screams coming from the forests....'nnNnnNnOOOOoOooOooOooooo....travis's babies...'
 
It's worse to tap to a RNC that is above your chin. That's just plain giving up when you aren't even being choked. Conor gets so much crap for tapping but at least he was getting choked for real, not just tapping because Tate had no heart.
Her nose was smashed, she couldn't breathe.
 
Hmms I wouldn't really see either as a worse defeat in regards to the combat/contest. However relevancy and interest would probably take a serious hit if ya sat on the shelf then got starched.

Dana pooped all over Holm's team but where is Ronda now and Holm is on to other fights. How long would one expect to be shelved?

The context is awkward.
 
Tate was doomed. Face Holm again and lose, wait Ronda and lose again. So she took the supposedly "easier" route and paid for it. She was too chicken to fight Holm again, that shows how much of a champion she is. Wanted to add defenses to her name to fight ronda again maybe. Too bad her nose now might look like a storm drain

Tate isn't a chicken by any means. She'll fight anybody and would fight Nunes again at the drop of a hat. She would lose by she is not scared of anyone.
 
Ronda would never have fought Holly a second time, she's too weak mentally and just the thought of a rematch puts her on the edge of committing suicide.


Honda wants no part of Holly Holm and I don't blame her.
 
Tate isn't a chicken by any means. She'll fight anybody and would fight Nunes again at the drop of a hat. She would lose by she is not scared of anyone.

The logical choice would be giving Holm a re-match, she was losing the fight until she pulled an RnC. Is clear her camp thought Amanda was easier. She could choose who she would face, even Rousey was in the equation. Picked Amanda and got whooped.

Too bad WMMA is weird. One has great striking, no ground game, other has striking but no gas, other has ground game but no striking and heart, other has ground game but can't take a shot etc.. Belt will be on some unranked girl's hands in no time.
 
If the titleholder can't beat just returning fragile ego Rousey then no one in that division will for awhile.
 
Looking back on it, it was clear that holm couldn't wait as it was too long.

It looks like the cards fall perfectly for Amanda that she gets that big money fight
 
The logical choice would be giving Holm a re-match, she was losing the fight until she pulled an RnC. Is clear her camp thought Amanda was easier. She could choose who she would face, even Rousey was in the equation. Picked Amanda and got whooped.

Too bad WMMA is weird. One has great striking, no ground game, other has striking but no gas, other has ground game but no striking and heart, other has ground game but can't take a shot etc.. Belt will be on some unranked girl's hands in no time.
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