What's the counter to hydraulic mount escape?

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I have guy mounted, he frames his right forarm across my waistline and his left hand grabs his right wrist (to reinforce the frame) as he bridges straight up, now as his hips come back down his frame keeps my hips away as he is hip scooting out to his right side and i can't close the distance because of the frame. I pretty much shin/knee slid into cross side but the move is starting to piss me off i don't want to give up mount, what are good counters so i can keep mount?
 
He has to plant both his feet to bridge. You could then go to grapevine or cross your ankles under his butt while widening your base and planting hands out wide.
 
Could also work an underhook to stop the frame from ever happening. or when he frames, slide your weight downwards, towards his hips, which should collapse the frame pinning his arms with your body. Works well with the grapevine.

Also, his hands are occupied with framing, that's when you attack the collar. If he doesn't give up the frame to defend his neck choke him. You could even set up a baseball choke, and when he bridges and you slide to side control, you will be sliding into a homebase, ifyouknowhatimean.
 
When you feel him start to frame, you can transition to small package or take the opportunity to get your leg over the frame to move into a technical mount, i.e. s-mount, high mount, mouned triangle, etc.
 
choke his brains out, if nogi grapevine and drop your weight on his face.
 
Personally I would move to a high mount, he can't bridge you if you're sitting on his chest instead of his hips. I don't really find grapevining that useful because it takes away offense on your part.
 
Sometimes just grapevining one leg can decrease his ability to bridge as well as setting up a better angle for you to attack the opposite side arm (opposite to the grapevine).
 
Wow i logged back in to a lot of good advice thanks everyone!
 
Ice 9 Cobra said:
Personally I would move to a high mount, he can't bridge you if you're sitting on his chest instead of his hips. I don't really find grapevining that useful because it takes away offense on your part.
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You can't move to high mount if he's framing your hips.
 
You have to learn to control him properly from mount to begin with once someone on the bottom is in proper position to escape you have already done something wrong. You have to control the head, work your knees up into the armpits and base with one hand depending on the way he bridges. If he starts to place a hand on your hip or knee you have to pull that hand up and off of you. If your knees are past his elbows and you have head control and good base it will be hard no matter what for him to escape.
 
buhriyon said:
You have to learn to control him properly from mount to begin with once someone on the bottom is in proper position to escape you have already done something wrong. You have to control the head, work your knees up into the armpits and base with one hand depending on the way he bridges. If he starts to place a hand on your hip or knee you have to pull that hand up and off of you. If your knees are past his elbows and you have head control and good base it will be hard no matter what for him to escape.
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Kurt Osiander, is that you?
 
gocubs1815 said:
When you feel him start to frame, you can transition to small package or take the opportunity to get your leg over the frame to move into a technical mount, i.e. s-mount, high mount, mouned triangle, etc.
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Agreed. When someone starts to frame, I just go right into s-mount. Sets it up perfectly.
 
gocubs1815 said:
When you feel him start to frame, you can transition to small package or take the opportunity to get your leg over the frame to move into a technical mount, i.e. s-mount, high mount, mouned triangle, etc.
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What's small package?
 
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