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What's more important when it comes to being a MMA GOAT? How many you've beaten or who you've beaten

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  1. KazDibiase "My style is kneeing people in the face."

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    We all have different opinions on what and who an MMA GOAT is. What do you think is more important?

    Beating undefeated like Khabib and Jon?

    Having a few Ls but beating the best of the best in their division like Silva, GSP, BJ,Fedor, Etc
     
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    Fighting without having been done for peds 25 times.

    Unlike 'Jon'.
     
  3. Espresso @Terrorist Rat Led BathtubBrothers #DefendorVacate

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    I'd like to add that getting finishes like Silva, in spectacular fashion against great competition certainly adds value
     
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    How close to Prime Fedor you are.
     
  5. KazDibiase "My style is kneeing people in the face."

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    Oh yeah this is true.
     
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  6. spooNN Black Belt

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    A little of both.
     
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  7. Orochimaru 大蛇丸 Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    Title defenses are the biggest thing, second is who you beat while defending the title

    I don't really care much about losses when it comes to guys like GSP, or Anderson
     
  8. biscuitsbrah Red Belt

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    How long you’re at the top is the most important because people are always trying to be better than you and film study you.

    When MM won the UFC belt Henry hadn’t started his mma career yet.

    I strongly believe khabib could have been a guy like that. But eventually some young, hungry upstart will have been training for you since the beginning of his career to dethrone you
     
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    Clay Guida is the unsung GOAT of the LW division.

    Does he have a lot of losses?
    Yes
    Is his resume incredible at the same time?
    Yes

    Guida may actually be cardio-heavy style of fighting LW GOAT.
     
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  10. FrappeDuRocma Thanks Tartara for the avatar.

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    Who, how, when, how much... <mma4>
     
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  11. Changeisinevitable Deoxyribose

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    Its mix of quality and quantity. You can't have one great win and be considered goat, just like you can't have multiple wins against cans. High level wins over a time period with is a must!
     
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    Most tequila cazadores spirit awards
     
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    Who you’ve beaten. By both measures jones is at the top. Especially when you compare him to khabib.
     
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  14. FrappeDuRocma Thanks Tartara for the avatar.

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    Peds and struggling during your last 4 fights, while been in your prime, should kick you out of the GOAT discussion. <Fedor23>
     
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  15. Sheva White Belt

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    of course who you have beaten is the main component of greatness otherwise 200-0 jail and street fights Daniel Rodriguez would be number 1 GOAT. In saying that you can't be 8-0 and be the GOAT if you have 8 killers on your resume.
     
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  16. Orochimaru 大蛇丸 Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    Yeah, that's why Khabib isn't the GOAT, it gets way harder once you start fighting the next generation of guys
     
  17. Orochimaru 大蛇丸 Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    Nobody even brought Jon up lol, you can say he should be disqualified for A,B,C, but resume wise he is the GOAT. And let's be honest, most of these guys are probably on PEDs.
     
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  18. Mr Wings Black Belt

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    Having a couple losses should not tarnish your legacy.

    It only does when Shertards cherry pick someone a fighter lost to, and then hammer on that.

    “Fedor got knocked out by a middleweight.”

    “Stipe got finished by Struve, in his prime.”
     
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  19. bobgeese Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    How you've beaten them.
     
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  20. bambammccoy Silver Belt

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    I don't really believe title defenses should matter as much. Some people get title shots much quicker than others while both simultaneously winning.
     
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