What would it take for you to vote for the other party?

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Both sides are just trying to win by default. Media for both sides, which is just Fox news vs everybody else, spends most of its time just bashing the other candidate, rather than giving any positive points of their own candidate. Is there any conceivable way for Fox news to give even neutral coverage of a democratic candidate, or for any of the others to give even neutral coverage of a republican candidate, or is it purely just finding ways to bash the other guy? IMO, this is terrible for the country because no matter who is elected, they've spent so much energy bashing them that the opinions of the viewers carries over past the election and into the presidency and leaves a lot of people angry or ashamed of their president no matter what.
 
If definitive, undeniable proof came out that Trump was accepting money from Putin or his underlings, I would vote against him because to vote for him would be to cuck America at that point.
 
Ironically, I'm a life long democrat, who will be voting republican for the foreseeable future. So, what it would take for the left to alienate me, exactly what they have done.
 
cut income tax for everyone, reduce short term cap gain tax, abolish the death tax, dont give hostile countries money not to develop nuclear armament when there is no way to stop them, do not take in muslim refugees
 
A plan that I agree with. It's starting to look like a write-in year.
 
The conservatives putting up a better candidate than the liberals would do the trick.
 
Would take a complete 180 of my political philosophy for me not to vote for the Libertarian candidate.
 
Huge welfare reform and tort reform. And a huge congressional investigation into the insurance industry.
 
To clarify, there is obviously never going to be a candidate with whom you totally agree, but is there anything that could happen that would make a media outlets more of a comparison, or are we doomed to just have each side focus solely on the shortcomings of the other?
 
To clarify, there is obviously never going to be a candidate with whom you totally agree, but is there anything that could happen that would make a media outlets more of a comparison, or are we doomed to just have each side focus solely on the shortcomings of the other?

So long as the parties continue to play up the fringe elements of their base, it's going to become more and more natural to highlight the failings of the other guy vs. your guy.

I blame gerrymandering. It's created an environment where you don't have to speak to the middle to win your election. Everyone talks about and thinks about the PResidential election but if you spend your early political career primarily in a district that has been carved up to remove any legitimate opposition then you're only going to be challenged by other people in your party. And that means when you're fighting with someone who generally agrees with you on everything, the only real difference is who's closer to the "enemy" and a movement towards the middle is a move towards the opposition.

So we're breeding a new crop of politicians who've only ever learned to fight for more fringe voters and never really had to fight for middle of the road-ers and independents. So, it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.

Although Trump seems to be sparking some kind of GOP movement to the left, just to get away from him.
 
a) If there were a massive political realignment like the one that took place in the 60s over Civil Rights - voting bases, platform, regions all turned upside down.
b) If the Democrats somehow nominated an ignorant, offensive, pathologically lying, erratic and unreliable, inexperienced buffoon of a candidate - that is to say, a Donald Trump type.

That's about it
 
Sane policy that's elucidated
Sane, professional, Presidential conduct

That's not much to ask.
 
Not much... Put up a better candidate then the Dems. I would have voted Kasich over Hillary. I voted for Bruce Rauner as my state Governor over the Dem incumbent.
 
The democrats would have to stop being socialist, marxist and anti-Christian values for me to vote for them.
 
For thinking people it's very simple. Here you have it:

A plan that I agree with. It's starting to look like a write-in year.

Pan, I'm curious if you are voting a write-in because you disagree with Trump's views or do you think he's incompetent, or some other reason?

When your party's candidate(s) and agenda no longer align with your views you jump ship. Obviously no candidate will perfectly align with your positions but you give weight to those were you diverge. For example I do not agree with some of the left's position on guns but given it isn't a big issue for me and the left isn't pushing anything insane it doesn't carry enough weight that I need to change my vote.

I would also oppose a candidate that did align with my views if I felt that person was totally incompetent and had bad judgement, lacked intelligence, poor temperament, etc..
 
If the managed to show they possessed some sanity and morality it would be a good start.
 
I'll vote for whoever the fuck anybody wants me to - for a paltry $25 by way of PayPal.





ETA: Shucks, did I say "$25"? I really meant $20.
 
this "us or them" mentality is right where they wanted ppl at from the beginning. Seems alot of ppl have bought in.

there are more choices than A or B. just need a level playing field to see the truth. Bernie wanted to start the route to that field thru election reform and his own party made sure he had no chance from the get go. that says all you need to really know.
 
I would return to the Left if they returned, even if just on paper, to being anti-interventionist, if they condemned all this progressive nonsense like trans-bathrooms, and non-binary gender crap they're indoctrinating children with, and if their idea of debate did not consist of pathologizing the other side.

Sadly, I agree with the Left on more things that I do the Right, but they've thrown logic out the window and they're as imperialist as the Right, so it's really not a tough choice.
 
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