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What would be the modern version of the Garand?

Discussion in 'Weapons and Tactics' started by YeahBee, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    What would be the modern version of the Garand?

    not military speaking like the main infantry weapon, but rather civilian reliable semi automatic rifle, and affordable

    Something a little less expensive then the Browning Bar

    due to Swedish law it can't be military looking so no pistol grips, no big ass magazine, heck I evne think they don't like synthetics in black

    carbine even?
     
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    ^What he said.

    M14/M1A has the 20-rounders...does that not work for you?

    Maybe the Remington 750?
     
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    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    Why not a Garand? They too spensive?

    If you got a BAR you could stand around like this guy:
    [​IMG]

    There's a tanker Garand, its a bit shorter. Accuracy isn't all that swift usually, but Garands aren't that accurate compared to stuff nowadays. There really isn't anything like that other than the new Browning BARs, the commercial ones. But they're heavy and spensive.

    You got the hots for a 30'06 something or other?
     
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    I had a SOC16............the biggest POS rifle i ever owned.

    Traded it for a new SS mini-14 tact., sling, and some cash.
     
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    M14/M1A. If you lived in the states you could get an actual M1 Garand for $600.

    What about something like an FN FNAR? Or a Benelli R1?
     
  7. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    yeah the Benelli is nice but prices are out of my range, even used they seem to hold prices steady

    not to mention that everything is more expensive here
     
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    Not modern but why not a SKS? If you want affordable, reliable semi-auto these can't be beat.
     
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    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    silly laws

    only military rifles allowed must be made before 1942

    so Garand would be okey but I have never seen them over here (the army never carried them so there isn't a surplus market)
     
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    Lord of Lies Brown Belt

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    Are SVT-40's available there? The Russians started making them in 1940.
     
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    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    nah I have pretty much googled every military origin semi-auto on Swedish ebay and similar, none to be found

    How does those calibers even stack up to "proper" hunting calibers, I was looking at mostly 30-06 or 9,3x62
     
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    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    second question, I am a lefty, would a righty semi-auto bother me? I have a righty semi auto shotgun and it doesn't

    what about a leveraction? where does it usually eject?
     
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    Symbiose** Banned Banned

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    I shoot left and it was never a problem, neither lever or semi auto should eject hot brass in your face.

    So now you want a lever gun? It's getting hard to help you. What is the main purpose of this rifle? Hunting? Plinking? Self defense?
     
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    I'm a bolt action nerd, so I say Mausers. You have semi-auto and you're going to be wasting ammo. Well aimed shots FTW
     
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    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    I already have a bolt action rifle

    I want a semi-auto but after browsing adds there isn't really much out there below circa 1500bucks(US dollars rough conversion)

    I want to get into boar and bear hunting, we got a pretty promising dog and those two hunting forms kinda rely on a fast second shot. I pass the exam to hunt bear just fine, 4 shots in 20 seconds at 80meters and 40 meters, but I mean it is bears ffs:D (two shots at 10 meters or so aswell but you only have to hit the first one but I hit both in 5 seconds)

    I imagine a leveraction to be a faster and are usually smaller/shorter which is great if I will be hunting more active after the dog

    and I will be closer then the 80 and 40 meters, especially when hunting bear, they move in the cover of the forrest, and are really fast

    Plus plinking is way more fun with a semi-auto, the shotgun doesn't count because slugs are like 5 dollars a piece
     
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    If you want to plink with a semi-auto, get a Ruger 10/22. It's cheap, fun and reliable.

    Now if you want to hunt bears and boars, you need a large caliber rifle. For faster follow up shots, lever is better than bolt action. Keep in mind that most lever guns have their own calibers and use different rounds than regular hunting rifles (because of tubular magazines). I know that Browning makes some lever guns that use normal magazines and regular rifle calibers, but they are more expensive.

    I like Marlin lever guns myself. For bear hunting, I'd go with a Marlin .45-70 gov. It's expensive to shoot though, so no plinking with that gun (hence the Ruger 10-22). But they got plenty of power and they are fun to shoot.
     
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    A truely modern battle rifle? SCAR-17. :D
     
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    I spent alot of summers in AK, and though i never hunted bear, i second the 45-70 as your stalk-the-brush bear rifle.......or a .338 for longer range kills.

    My buddy however swore by his 375 H&H...

    "...African game guides, professional hunters, and dangerous game cullers have repeatedly voted the .375 H&H as their clear preference for an all-round caliber, if they could only have one rifle.[citation needed] A similar preference has been expressed by Alaska game guides for brown and polar bear country."

    .375 H&H Magnum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    I was gonna recommend a lever action actually. Look at Marlin's line of lever actions and if you want a cheaper alternative look at Rossi lever actions. They're not as fast to reload as a semi-auto of course, but more reliable.
     
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    Fuck, seeing that pic of the BAR reminds me of how my dad could have kept one for himself after being discharged from the Navy but he didn't do it... the bastard.
     

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