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some might even create a sub group with new name/image.
I could see it
some might even create a sub group with new name/image.
someone just posted a link to the current case on the pic.
edit: and it was promptly deleted.
Did Joe Moreira lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student statutory raped a women? Did Ralph Gracie lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student broke in a house and raped a woman at knifepoint? The answer is no to both of these.Both were treated as singular issues where the perpetrators were grown men and were responsible for themselves.YET, in this case Lloyd is being blamed. Really....whats the difference? I have an idea but don't want to change this whole topic.
someone just posted a link to the current case on the pic.
edit: and it was promptly deleted.
Did Joe Moreira lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student statutory raped a women? Did Ralph Gracie lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student broke in a house and raped a woman at knifepoint? The answer is no to both of these.Both were treated as singular issues where the perpetrators were grown men and were responsible for themselves.YET, in this case Lloyd is being blamed. Really....whats the difference? I have an idea but don't want to change this whole topic.
No, it will be the repercussions of what happened 20 years ago and not just what happened on NYE.
Nah...scroll through that thread.People were condemning Lloyd long before that was even brought up.Additionally....lets put that rape case in perspective.The man was in an apt where a chick willingly had sex with multiple guys and he didn't participate in any way(held her down,had sex etc.He wasn't even in the same room.
Did Joe Moreira lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student statutory raped a women? Did Ralph Gracie lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student broke in a house and raped a woman at knifepoint? The answer is no to both of these.Both were treated as singular issues where the perpetrators were grown men and were responsible for themselves.YET, in this case Lloyd is being blamed. Really....whats the difference? I have an idea but don't want to change this whole topic.
This isn't the first time we've seen rape in sport, or BJJ. Franca did it and people forgot, the only reason why this is so big is because people are kicking dirt at LI.
Btw, Keenan = TLI.
Did Joe Moreira lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student statutory raped a women? Did Ralph Gracie lose a huge chunk of business and/or students when his student broke in a house and raped a woman at knifepoint? The answer is no to both of these.Both were treated as singular issues where the perpetrators were grown men and were responsible for themselves.YET, in this case Lloyd is being blamed. Really....whats the difference? I have an idea but don't want to change this whole topic.
For fucks sake, you and Chulo, and that other massive twat devturn or whatever his name is, need some serious reading comprehension help. This is not people blaming LI for this recent rape, this is people rightly holding LI accountable for his past in light of recently discovered information. It just so happens that the information was discovered as a result of his handling of the other rape case.
And for the record, the difference is that AFAIK, neither Joe Moreira nor Ralph Gracie have themselves been involved in a rape. That's a pretty fucking key difference, don't you agree?
Your LI apologism is embarrassing.
And who the fuck are you to say what is "rightly" in this situation and what is not? You are nobody, and just like everyone in this forum, you don't know what happened exactly, let alone what the fuck was going in this 2 person's minds. "It just so happens to be discovered" are you fucking serious? One of the dudes in the other thread said he "knew" this for a long time but kept silence for some reason and decided to "tell everyone" now, I don't know why he did this, but let's just leave that alone.
And even if they were involved in a rape before, that doesn't mean his name should be thrown around like it is with LI's right now. So nah, I don't fucking agree.
I'm not trying to defend LI, or any of the criminals, let's get that straight, I'm just saying, the way the man's name is being thrown around is kind of unfair for something that doesn't have anything with but his students did.
Yes, he was. He even admitted to wanting to have sex with the woman.Nah...scroll through that thread.People were condemning Lloyd long before that was even brought up.Additionally....lets put that rape case in perspective.The man was in an apt where a chick willingly had sex with multiple guys and he didn't participate in any way(held her down,had sex etc.He wasn't even in the same room.
LOL @ all the "is Lloyd Irvin the best BJJ coach out there" to "holy shit he's a rapist"