what to do when your opponent is to stubborn to tap and lets himself get put to sleep

TheIronGiraffe

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I have been put to sleep once...but in my defense I was brand new and didn't realize I was being choked until I woke up to some dude shaking me around because he thought he'd killed me. I have yet to see it happen at my school but apparently if you are to stubborn to tap from a choke and go to sleep the class gathers around you and sings happy birthday... (after making sure you aren't dead)
 
If you're in class just let him go, he's an idiot for not tapping in training and you would be an idiot for choking him out in training. In a tournament put him to sleep.
 
I got choked out cold from a mounted triangle in a tournament recently due to being gangsta and not wanting to tap.

Video upon request.
 
Don't want to seem like a douche...I have never tried to put someone out or hurt them but sometimes it's hard to tell if you have that choke sinked in quite right. Case and point I was going for a kimura from half guard top and slowly cranking it when this dude screams at the top of his lungs. I asked him why he didn't tap and we just shrugged and said "I don't know".
 
I'd put him to sleep end of story. I won't break a guys arm for being stubborn and let it go in training, but for a choke if they don't tap it's on them especially since some chokes affect people differently.
 
If I feel a teammate going out, I let go. If it was my mistake and they were fine, oh well. In a tournament, choke them hard until the ref tells you to stop.
 
choke them slowly. and let them regain a lil bit of conciousness then take it out again.
 
"happy birthday" lol that's awesome, i would trip hard if people did that to me
 
My principal training partner is stubborn when it comes to tapping to blood chokes. I think despite being a blue belt, he doesn't really understand what makes them work.

We commonly do series where you transition from choke to choke. This means a collar grip will be held for a relatively long time. He basically won't admit you have it on right unless you ink it deep and finish it. Put him to sleep for a few seconds about a month ago going from one choke to another. His fault. He's still stubborn about chokes for some reason.
 
A gente apaga mais nao bate... Fuck it- choke 'em out.

99% of people shouldn't have any problem when they come to (some have small seizures whilst under but those will be mostly harmless). You hear about LEOs not being allowed to use blood chokes- but to be fair that's a load of fat policemen who think an RNC is ramming their baton into someone's trachea.
 
A gente apaga mais nao bate... Fuck it- choke 'em out.

99% of people shouldn't have any problem when they come to (some have small seizures whilst under but those will be mostly harmless). You hear about LEOs not being allowed to use blood chokes- but to be fair that's a load of fat policemen who think an RNC is ramming their baton into someone's trachea.

This is true about some cops. Nothing against LEO, BTW.

Ironically, the training partner I described is a cop.

I used to be a news reporter and covered several protests. Watching back the footage from one, I saw an officer apply an RNC with the forearm straight across the throat. Held onto the kid for a good minute until he passed out then dragged him away. I don't know if he damaged the trach, but he sure could have. I turned to my exec producer and said "the real story is that guy's poor training could have killed that kid."

But nobody wanted to see me demonstrating the proper way to choke someone unconscious on the 6 o'clock news.
 
it would be pretty epic if a news reporter choked out his co-host or someone he was interviewing
 
Aren't you supposed to lift the guy's legs in the air if they get choked out?
 
Eh I got choked unconscious for the first time a month ago. I was stubborn and thought I could get out of a nasty anaconda. I swore I could get out because i've done it thousands of times............but then I woke up. Oh well, lesson learned.
 
my instructor uses to do rnc with forearm straight, he says that you get the tap faster that way. well its true because it hurts alot and it forces to tap quickly but i prefer to do the bloodchoke version.
 
my instructor uses to do rnc with forearm straight, he says that you get the tap faster that way. well its true because it hurts alot and it forces to tap quickly but i prefer to do the bloodchoke version.

You either get the tap quickly or fracture cartilage rings in the trachea; wind pipe chokes are probably the best idea to really dig for during training. In tournaments, shit happens, positions are off, but I'd stick with cutting off the carotids during training instead of potentially harming a training partner with poor technique.
 
no point in not tapping if they got it.. just stupid.. no point of being stubborn..
 
What do I do? I give them a kick in the ass and tell them to smarten the fuck up. People know that if they're getting chokcen unconscious at my school that they're going to get an ear full. I imagine if someone kept doing it I would give them a vacation, but it's never happened.
 
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