What stage do you believe UFC is at?

This is the garbage era, where Dana serves up bumfights and tells you to like it.

By the way, drink the trans beer that Dana now tells you to drink.
 
MMA maybe young, but human cock fighting is not. I can never see it being accepted as main-stream. This is probably as mainstream as it will ever get in my humble opinion. Whether or not it reaches that status, I'll likely be watching.
 
I prefer the 2010 era, less watered down cards, less professional, more fun to watch.
 
MMA needs to establish itself as the go to sport for individual martial arts, including boxing, where possible.

This will not happen under Dana or a Dana clone, so it might not be the UFC itself that achieves it.
 
The UFC is transitioning from a model where televised fights are used primarily to sell PPVs to a model where the tv contract is all and PPVs are obsolete. Being in the middle of that transition and refusing to acknowledge it makes for a lot of awkward, bad matchmaking.
 
whocares said:
All entertainment is going in the same direction, and if you're much older than 35 it ain't going in your direction.
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I heard it on the Watch that episodic tv is making a comeback. Movies wasted their good IP so the future of movie can be very 90s or 70s.
 
The thing is in this day and age there's so much entertainment content for us to consume. Everything is going to get smaller as there's more competition. I think MMA has more or less peaked but will stay around in some form for a long time.
 
nintey said:
The thing is in this day and age there's so much entertainment content for us to consume. Everything is going to get smaller as there's more competition. I think MMA has more or less peaked but will stay around in some form for a long time.
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You could pirate anything from Thailand, South Africa and old tv shows in 02 also.

Youtube is quite old.

What changed compared to 10 or 18 years ago?
 
Right now it's still in it's leather helmet phase. Some athleticism and a year of training and there is a path for most people to fight in the ufc.

And that's without even mentioning wmma
 
ZCrz said:
Right now it's still in it's leather helmet phase. Some athleticism and a year of training and there is a path for most people to fight in the ufc.

And that's without even mentioning wmma
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Is there an infrastructure that changes that?

Basketball has big time student athlete programs and academies in Europe, the NFL has a lot of big time high schools and colleges.

The UFC has...
 
Well I woudnt say ufc is done, finished etc. but lets say 20% after prime :D
 
In terms of revenue, UFC is still growing and breaking its own records. Card quality to MMA forum dwellers is subjective.

In terms of skill level, athlete development, fight strategy, etc I would say still growing as well. As the OP pointed out, NBA now has 7-footers that can shoot 3s and dish out assists. It wasn't like that even in the recent past. One day you will see fighters able to showcase the skills of a BJJ world champion, boxing world champion, wrestling and judo gold medalist all rolled into one fighter.
 
UFC has shaken off its old Tapout meathead image and has now become the sport pretty much all guys at least kind of watch (though its still less common to be 'into' MMA than ball sports, lets say)

However, post-McGregor era the promotion is kind of short on stars (Pereira being the notable exception), and the sport itself has developed to a point that its not interesting from a style-vs-style standpoint (tbf this has been the case for years), MMA is very much its own style now.

I think the major difference between early UFC and now is that present day UFC is sort of the 'normal' MMA. In the 90s it was the most exciting fighting promotion out there - now you can go watch Street Beefs, King of the Streets, etc, that are more JBG-approved. So while it started as exciting NHB, it's become the corporate version of MMA (highest competition but also the most polished, potentially least interesting)

I think it's going to keep on making tons of cash and growing, but will gradually become less interesting for the hardcore MMA crowd. Other competitors that can pay fighters more will eventually eat its lunch but other than that they seem to have build a solid business model that works
 
Skills wise, some of the guys are exceptional. Ilia, Aspinall and Islam are up there with the best the sport has seen.
The problems are that outside of the top few, most divisions don't have much to offer.
Aspinall, Pereira, Dricus, Topuria and Islam can all clean out their divisions with one, maybe 2 wins.
 
jeskola said:
In terms of revenue, UFC is still growing and breaking its own records. Card quality to MMA forum dwellers is subjective.

In terms of skill level, athlete development, fight strategy, etc I would say still growing as well. As the OP pointed out, NBA now has 7-footers that can shoot 3s and dish out assists. It wasn't like that even in the recent past. One day you will see fighters able to showcase the skills of a BJJ world champion, boxing world champion, wrestling and judo gold medalist all rolled into one fighter.
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I do not think off bigs are being more skilled compared to the pounders who had to venture into the paint much more in the olden days.
 
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