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lol, I need to hurry up and get in shape then.
King Kabuki said:How is partaking in a school extra-carricular activity like Wrestling not honing Social skills? He learns to be a team player, the value of sacrifice, and every other social lesson that applies to being part of a team. And I don't know what school system you work in, but the one I went to necessitated you maintain a certain GPA to even be able to play sports. Hence, the question about focusing on schoolwork is a non-factor. What 14 year-old would learn supplementation? A smart one. I have plenty of them that I myself work with on a routine basis through my job.
Just because you work in education does not give you the right to judge this man. I love how so many of you guys in here come to this board and ask for tips and shit, and so many of you don't even understand you have 14-19 year-olds posting right along with you on a routine basis. Yet when a man comes in here and asks how he can help his son get the information to be a better Wrestler, it's almost all discouragement? Kind of sad.
Wrestling on his school Wrestling team is not going to deprive this man's kid of a childhood. His Father actually BEING THERE to be SUPPORTIVE and help get INFORMATION is not going to deprive him of a childhood. NOTHING this gentleman has said has hinted at ANYTHING like getting tunnel-vision and focusing only on Wrestling. You know, some people didn't even have Fathers around to even ask for this kind of information for us. This guy deserves a medal, not discouragement.
What I find even more hilarious looking back over this thread is that the thread-starter never mentioned weight-cutting OR supplementing (and for everyone's information when I say supplementing I'm talking about protein powder and a multi-vitamin at this age, but thanks for asking before assuming shit), so why that shit was even mentioned I don't know. He asked how the kid should eat to grow muscle and training tips. If the kid Wrestles at all or does anything resembling a workout, he's going to grow muscle, if he eats well he'll grow better muscle.
You guys discouraging this man remind me of the parents who come into my store who tell their kids that protein bars are bad for them, but that they'll buy them a Snickers on the way home.
Tot@l_Recal| said:yeah really. 14 year old cutting weight and worrying about grams of protein = shitty life and possible death...
Brand Nizzle said:Says who?? I turned out fine physically.
In my response to you I first stated that I agreed with most of the things you said to try to avoid this very kind of mudslinging. Obviously you have encyclopedic knowledge of nutrition, and I don't question that. I just feel that any kind of supplementation at this age, especially when the impetus is coming from the parent rather than the athlete himself is ill-advised.
I would say if the athlete brings the issue of supplementation up himself, take him to a physician or dietician and have the two of them set out a plan appropriate for his age. I think one would want to tread very lightly when proposing possibly harmful things to one's children.
KK, it's your forum, I'm just living in it. If I can respectfully dissent, I appreciate the opportunity. So far I've only availed myself on two occasions, in the discussion about steroids and now this. If it's unwelcome, let me know, and I won't darken your door again.
However, the idea that you can just wrestle at your natural weight is insane, unless you are a genetic freak, or have a couple of older brothers who are wrestling stars. Cutting weight is a part of wrestling, its a shame it is, but thats the reality. Of course, I would never recommend some of the shit we used to do, which was pretty much just controlled starvation.
Chad Hamilton said:GPP
Make him sling the sledge.
Flip some tires.
Sprint and speed drills.
Light plyo's.
Burpees.
Jump rope.
That should be good until he's about 16, then put him under the weight.
Powerlifting basics combined with introductory Oly's i.e powercleans and pulls.
That'll be $55 for the consultation and $55 for each hour afterwards.
you should listen to THIS guy. admitedly if he can't do 20 pushups he has no reason to be doing bench press, but 14 is not too young to be hitting heavy weights. I wish I started at that age.Urban said:feed him the following: broccoli, wild salmon, grass fed beef, walnuts, olive oil, blueberries, pumpkin, spinach, tomatoes, turkey breast, and yogurt. focus on getting both protein and fiber in every meal, and supplement with a multi-vitamin and fish oil (fish oil can be taken with each meal IMO). Supplemental protein and creatine aren't going to do any damage, but bare in mind that they are just that: supplements. foster good eating habbits and a healthy diet first.
If he wants to lift (and I think everyone should lift) read the stickies in strength and power. He's old enough, his ball have dropped, it's time for him to start hitting the iron like anyone else. Lift heavy focus on progressing regularly.
markcowperthwai said:Wow, this turned into a whole session on parenting, cutting weight etc. Maybe I should explain myself better.
Brad is a 14 year old, 5'6" tall, who was 170 lbs 2 years ago. He is now 120. He is in good shape and enjoys running, stuff like that.
He was taken from his birth parents at 4 years old. He was adopted by a single man at age 7. This man physically abused him, and I mean beat the living shit out of him regularly. This kid still flinches when you come near him. He is my foster son, living with us for just a few months. He idolizes Tim Sylvia, since I knew Tim back in the Maine days. We worked together, whatever.
The kid has made friends with some wrestlers and him and I roll around together and I show him some stuff.
He is taking whey protein, the Doc said it was ok. He is on Adderall for ADHD. He is not worried about cutting weight or any of that crap. He just wants to compete and (my opinion) find an avenue that he can excel at and try to regain a control mechanism for his life.
Thanks to the guys sticking up for me. I don't want to push this kid too far, but I want him to know that he can accomplish alot if he tries hard and doesn't quit when things get tough.
Sorry to unload so much, but just so you all know. He is a good kid who has been through hell. He needs something right now, and I think this could help him alot.
Brad is a 14 year old, 5'6" tall, who was 170 lbs 2 years ago. He is now 120. He is in good shape and enjoys running, stuff like that.