What Quarterbacks do you think have/had an unfair shake in NFL??

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  1. Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

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    Yup. Lions are possibly the worst managed franchise in NFL history....they made Barry Sanders and Megatron quit the game in their primes FFS.
     
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    His QB rating was better than more than 40% of the starters in the league even though he was on a shitty team on it's third coach in three years and with a terrible receiving corps. All three of these coaches never had another head coaching job in the league.

    Kap deserved another shot, only reason why he didn't was because of the taking a knee stuff. It's the angry white boy types that were most upset by the knee and that was a problem for the league, folks wanted to tie reduced viewership to Kap. No team would touch him for fear of financial repercussions.

    BTW Gabbert is still in the league and still not very good. So Gabbert get employed all this time but Kap never got a real tryout. He was blackballed.
     
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  3. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I'm not sure I've seen a mention in this thread that would compare to Kevin Garnett in the NBA.

    That's an example of a player who might have filled up one hand with rings if he hadn't been consigned to the Siberia of the NBA. If Kobe had played all those years on Minnesota, he wouldn't have gotten his first ring until he was in Boston, too. Conversely, if Garnett was in LA, he'd have 4-5 (or more) himself.

    There would be a vibrant debate over who the GOAT power forward is of the sport: Duncan or Garnett. Instead, Garnett sits below Malone on everyone's list, without controversy, and many rank him lower than that.
    Shitty player who tucked dick like a bitch when the NFL gave him a second chance.

    He lives where mental midgets with mediocre talent like him belong: outside the spotlight.
     
  4. Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    Like @PUO3 said. It has to be Stafford from the modern era. The guy on a competently ran team that had more than just Megatron he would have gone places.
     
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    Decent O Line and a Running game to relieve some of the burden would've helped. There was a stretch where the Defence wasn't terrible during that time too.
     
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    Kaep tried out with Balt and with Seattle. Had a workout with Seattle within the last two years.

    Issue was Kaep wanted to be a starter. Notice Gabbert is a backup, still? Bortles too? Andy Dalton is also a backup. Kaep wanted to be a starter. Then when the Ravens still had Flacco but saw Lamar in the draft coming up shortly and you add Kaeps psycho girl saying "the NFL are like slave drivers" or whatever she said that was what did him in.
     
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    As a Packers fan there were years where the Lions scared me more than the Bears or Vikings cause of what Stafford could do with just Megatron then you had Suh and a healthy Ziggy just mobbing o-lines.
     
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    Watching Megatron violate DBs was almost pornographic.

    I would've rather seen him traded than retire (same with Barry)
     
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  9. Madmick Zugzwang Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Exactly. He isn't good enough to be a starter, so why are we talking about a chump like that as if we missed out on a potentially dynastic career?

    The NFL afforded him the open workout shot because of CTs about them covering up his supposedly generational talent in closed workouts. He ducked. He's a coward. He realized he had too much money to lose. If he came back, and everyone saw him for the mediocre talent he was, it would tarnish the myth built around him as a civil rights hero who sacrificed a Hall of Fame career for the cause. He couldn't risk that. He has a long-term grift going, and he knows it. He's a pupil of Al Sharpton, not Martin Luther King Jr.
     
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    Jamarcus Russell
    RG3

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    Tanny is a system QB

    Blake Bortles is average, not great, if he was great he'd have more opportunities.

    Tim Tebow teams won because of an elite defense not because of 1 play a game he'd make when every other QB was making 10
     
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  12. Omegaboy13 Sweepin' Your Leg

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    All QBs are system QBs.

    I'll stand firmly on the Bortles bandwagon knowing the stats don't lean in my favor. Hopefully he gets a chance to prove me right.

    Tim Tebow won solely because of the defense? Because that defense was 1-4 before he showed up. I don't recall any of them being on the field for the numerous 4th quarter or OT offensive game winning drives either. Defenses can win games by putting their teams behind on points deep into the 4th? Was the defense on the field when he threw his 80 yard pass to Thomas to win in OT in the playoffs against the Steelers? Man, foozball is crazy. The elite defense did real well giving up 6 passing TDs and 45 points to the Pats in the Divisional playoff game.
     
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    No, not all QB's are system QB's. Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson are two prime examples of no matter what they're put into they find success.

    That TEAM was 1-4 and the first 4 weeks of a season mean fuck all, it's a cluster fuck. I don't recall Tebow with a numerous 4th QT or OT drives either. He had 1 vs the steelers. He was 7-4 with a 46% completion rate, 12 TD's in 11 games and 6 int's.

    Dude did fuck all except not turn the ball over too much. He sure as shit didn't win them games, that defense did. They kept them in games. In fact, that defense would have been rated in the top 5 if Tebow could have finished a god damn drive.

    Btw, that % was for the SEASON, not a game. If a QB has a game with that % they get raked over the coals for being shit, Tebow was dog shit tier.

    Edit: They were 8-8 and won the AFC West LMAO

    Just shut the hell up, everything about Tebow and that division was a travesty
     
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  14. Omegaboy13 Sweepin' Your Leg

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    Maybe instead of talking out your ass, you should watch the games? You may not remember his 4th quarter and OT game winning drives, but the camera and stat lines remember.
     
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    The stat lines like 46.5% completion? Winning a terrible division?

    Says he has 6 in his 12 wins, which hey, looks good on paper. I just remember watching how terrible he was for the rest of the games and McGahee did work that season
     
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    Tebow got his chances and should have taken the suggested move to TE or FB. The guy's throwing motion is fucking brutal and painfully slow to watch which always would hamper him at the pro level with dudes like Demarcus Ware and other rushers looking to constantly strip him if they get near him. I didn't list Von Miller as I can't remember if Von was in the league when Tebow was still a starter and anyways Von has always been a Bronco so.... yeah. Calm yourself if you see this @Dizzy
     
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  17. PolishHeadlock2 Monoculture of free-thinkers Platinum Member

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    LT, Ryan Mathews, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Keenan Allen. They had good/solid defenses at least early in his career

    Was their line shit and I wasn't paying attention?
     
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    Tim Couch, David Carr or any other QB that got thrown to the wolves on a a complete garbage squad.
     
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  19. Epicman1324 DC is better than Jones. Deal with it.

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    Matt Stafford. Dude makes magic happen nearly everytime he steps on the field, is a pure, tough, winner, and nobody cares because he plays for that dumpster fire in Detroit.
     
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  20. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    What a load of bullshit. No QB has ever played with more talent and done less with it than Phillip Rivers.
     
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