International What Normal Levels of Political Aggression Looks Like

[Deleted member 585708]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66370651



Here's a video of Rushi Sunak, the British Prime Minister, pulling a pint and getting heckled on 'the day he raises alcohol duty'.

Some will argue for Sunak's alcohol duty, some will argue against it.

This is normal levels of democratic aggression.

Naturally, you will see by looking at US politics, what 'abnormal' levels look like. Abnormal levels look like a threat to your entire democracy, and your status in the world.

Open question to the left and right of US politics: are you not embarrassed by what's happening?

 

[P4p Islam]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66370651



Here's a video of Rushi Sunak, the British Prime Minister, pulling a pint and getting heckled on 'the day he raises alcohol duty'.

Some will argue for Sunak's alcohol duty, some will argue against it.

This is normal levels of democratic aggression.

Naturally, you will see by looking at US politics, what 'abnormal' levels look like. Abnormal levels look like a threat to your entire democracy, and your status in the world.

Open question to the left and right of US politics: are you not embarrassed by what's happening?

Your tiktok video doesnt load for me, which isnt really a problem since its something from tiktok, and i dont know what alcohol duty is.

 

[koquerelle]

I'm tired of clowns being disrespectful to political figures for likes on social media. I don't care if it's Trudeau or Trump. You can question them, but you don't have to be an asshole.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I'm going to say fuck him. The government has been "legally" stealing from Brits by continuously raising prices on booze and s to crazy levels. Basically abusing their position to squeeze money from pubs and patrons, and also preying on those with addiction problems. Sunak I think has slapped a 20% tax increase. Fuck him. Even if inflation is high blah blah blah I'm sick of sin taxes and the proportion they are to the cost of producing the product.

 

[Morning Star]

I'm sure David Amess and Jo Cox could attest to that superior political discourse you got over there.

 

[blaseblase]

I'm tired of clowns being disrespectful to political figures for likes on social media. I don't care if it's Trudeau or Trump. You can question them, but you don't have to be an asshole.

Nah, fuck them. If they are allowed to be blatantly corrupt and fuck up the world with no repercussion, we are allowed to criticize them.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Is it as embarassing as your posts in the meme thread?

 

[Yehudim]

Your tiktok video doesnt load for me, which isnt really a problem since its something from tiktok, and i dont know what alcohol duty is.

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fuck tiktok
fuck alcohol duty
but most of all, fuck mods.

 

[koquerelle]

Nah, fuck them. If they are allowed to be blatantly corrupt and fuck up the world with no repercussion, we are allowed to criticize them.

I agree with you 100%. We're allowed to criticize them. I'm just tired of aggressive clowns doing it for likes. You can criticize someone and still be respectful.

 

[koquerelle]

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fuck tiktok
fuck alcohol duty
but most of all, fuck mods.

What is alcohol duty? (I'm gonna assume I'm doing my part)

 

[Super_Nintendo]

 

[Fox by the Sea]

surprised by the fact sunak is able to push that lever
also, here he is with pm of italy, melloni, laughing at your bank account

 

[idrankyourbeer]

 

[KnightTemplar]

I'm sure David Amess and Jo Cox could attest to that superior political discourse you got over there.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I agree with you 100%. We're allowed to criticize them. I'm just tired of aggressive clowns doing it for likes. You can criticize someone and still be respectful.

Respect politicians? What next, I'm not supposed to kill a whore and dump her in a shallow grave?

You fucking Libtards and your Woke madness...

 

[P4p Islam]

We get it. You dont like black people.

 

[Fake Doctor]

I'm tired of clowns being disrespectful to political figures for likes on social media. I don't care if it's Trudeau or Trump. You can question them, but you don't have to be an asshole.

You did mention Trudeau specifically, so... To be fair, that decorum goes two ways. If you say something like this:



And ask "do we tolerate these people?" about a good portion of your own populace - and this type of thing becomes common in your political rhetoric - I don't see why you're only concerned about people "being disrespectful to political figures" who openly paint them as enemies and outsiders within their own country. I find it far, far more egregious that "govern for my voters, and paint my non-voters as deplorables, bad people, and say that they are not to be tolerated" is becoming an increasingly popular campaign strategy. I literally watched Trudeau's last campaign turn on a dime mid-way through, when the polls started turning against him, to make "The other side is not just wrong, they're bad people, and it's a threat to you to let them get power" become core to his campaign. It was irredeemably ugly coming from a man who was vying for power over the people he was painting so negatively.

You really don't get why people are an asshole to their leader who is nakedly hostile to them? Like, really? I get wanting political decorum. I want that to be the norm. It goes two ways - and I place far more onus the elected leader to court it than some random schmuck working a 9 to 5. When the would-e leader treats millions of their voters like assholes, and that's part of their campaign strategy, then turnabout is fair play. If we want to see decorum come back to politics, the would-be leaders setting the standard would be great. And yes, Trump is absolutely guilty of this as well - but I'm Canadian, so that hits closer to home.

 

[Scheme]

Please be respectful to the people fucking you in the ass! Thanks guys.

 

[koquerelle]

You did mention Trudeau specifically, so... To be fair, that decorum goes two ways. If you say something like this:



And ask "do we tolerate these people?" about a good portion of your own populace - and this type of thing becomes common in your political rhetoric - I don't see why you're only concerned about people "being disrespectful to political figures" who openly paint them as enemies and outsiders within their own country. I find it far, far more egregious that "govern for my voters, and paint my non-voters as deplorables, bad people, and say that they are not to be tolerated" is becoming an increasingly popular campaign strategy. I literally watched Trudeau's last campaign turn on a dime mid-way through, when the polls started turning against him, to make "The other side is not just wrong, they're bad people, and it's a threat to you to let them get power" become core to his campaign. It was irredeemably ugly coming from a man who was vying for power over the people he was painting so negatively.

You really don't get why people are an asshole to their leader who is nakedly hostile to them? Like, really? I get wanting political decorum. I want that to be the norm. It goes two ways - and I place far more onus the elected leader to court it than some random schmuck working a 9 to 5. When the would-e leader treats millions of their voters like assholes, and that's part of their campaign strategy, then turnabout is fair play. If we want to see decorum come back to politics, the would-be leaders setting the standard would be great. And yes, Trump is absolutely guilty of this as well - but I'm Canadian, so that hits closer to home.

Fair point.

 

[nostradumbass]

Yes, and that is why Sunak didn't even pay attention, and the 6 months of violence and burning cities in the US literally had politicians humiliate themselves by putting on cosutmes and get on their knees to appease them, corporations donated billions to the massive grift, the mayor of Porland fled his home, the mayor of Seattle just gave them a city block, police departments were stripped and hamstrung, DAs stopped prosecuting criminals, and ludicrous policy proposals like $5 million reparation checks started getting introduced.

Meanwhile, this guy's polite approach didn't even make Sunak look up.