What makes a Good Punch ?

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  1. Sulty

    Sulty Blue Belt

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    Hey Guys,

    I ve been a MMA fan for a long time and just started to look into training MMA recently. Anyway, this question would probably be answered by people who know what they re talking about so please, no guessers.

    I wanted to know, what makes a really good punch, one that can KTFO of your opponent. Is it speed ? positioning ? Power ? Please explain...

    I ve tried picking up hints by watching powerhouse punchers like Igor Vovchanchyna and Fedor but still have no idea of the intracacies it takes to deliver a fucking sweet blow.


    Thanks,

    SULTY
     
  2. SmashiusClay

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    All of the above. A good punch requires proper technique so that the entire body weight can be driven behind the fist; you've got to be accurate and time the strike perfectly so you can catch your opponents jaw; plus being ridiculously strong does'nt hurt .
     
  3. spamalope

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    heavy bag helps lots for power.
     
  4. ratbite

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    precision, power, training experience and hitting on the chin. I would recommend Bas Rutten's Big DVD's of combat to get into the real fine points (if you want something to study as opposed to just walking into any random MMA gym can get you bad info/philiosophy), Bas goes to great lengths to cover the totality of delivering quality strikes.

    I've got the DVD's and they're simply incredible.

     
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    a glass chin!?
     
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    rktg84 The man in black

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    i feel like a prick today so... you know theres a forum for these.
     
  7. jojo

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    if you can get your body behind the punch and your swing is nice and compact.
     
  8. RoccCity

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  9. A D

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    When you see people connect with a punch but their arm goes limp after contact its pretty common to see the opponent sluff it off, when the puncher really stiffens the arm and keeps it solid for the whole shot, it tends to cause more alot more damage.
     
  10. adrenaline**

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    it's a long story. Different punch technique in different situation.
    If you want to KO an opponent you don't need to strike hard. You need to strike in the lower jaw. right below the k-9 tooth. a little bit to the rear of that position. There is an artery there which you need to hit. If the punch is precise you really dont have to put a lot of power.

    Some times you can use your whole weight to help the punch, sometimes it is dangerous because things like Fedor vs. Fujita can happen.
     
  11. brashleyholland

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    Seriously, all the things you mentoned. Guys like Igor have a natural advantage over the rank and file though, as they have naturaly 'heavy hands' which is always a bonus!
     
  12. Cross-Trainer

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    Hitting hard like Chuck Liddel etc. . .Igor. . .hmm who else comes to mind Old Baroni. . .Gomi. . .Pulver. . .Penn. . .Kid Yamamoto. . .Tank. . .

    PUNCHING POWER: It is a gift that is given. . . You can of course work on your strikes. . .but having heavy hands like these few stated is something you cannot just work on and have respectively for some.

    ex 1: Wanderlei is not a KO puncher. . .He throws a fury of combinations . .mostly hooks . .that in a combination may knock u out . ..with a head butt ala Guy Mezger. .

    ex 2: Rampage. . .slams. . .Knees. . .and pounds you to a TKO

    ex 2: Couture takes you down and TKO's you not a KO. . .


    Although there may be exceptions to others who have just worked on their punch and realized they have knock out power . . . It can happen. . .work on technique over and over . .work on speed

    -Speed is essential to KO power. . hit him on the chin . .and it is lights. . .

    TRAIN HARD> STAY FOCUSED = A powerful mind = a Champion

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  13. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    also , the punch u dont see is the one that knocks you out.
     
  14. randomg1t

    randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    if you want to improve the power of your punches there's a great tutorial you can find on the net it's called "Punching with power" it covers all the exercises you need. add precision and the right moment and your opponent is ktfo.

    good luck.
     
  15. tequilaboy

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  16. The way to knock out a guy easily is to hit him with something he doesnt expect. When you brace, it is easy to take a punch on the chin, it still dazes you, but doesnt knock you out. Its the punches you dont expect that knock you out cause they spin your neck around with no muscle resistance. Learn to counter with hooks and sharp, straight punches. Doesnt take much power.
     
  17. El Tiburon

    El Tiburon 1959 The year we picked our poison

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    This is right up my alley. I trained in Hopkido for over 11 years (Blackbelt) and boxed in the army for 4 years. Killer punches a skill that combines technique as well as power. There are 4 steps that I was trained to follow they are :

    1)
    Fist- It starts with your fist you have to roll your fist. Start at the fingertips rolled inward to the knuckles very tightly. Second is the wrist, always has to be straight. It is very easy to injure the wrist by not keeping it straight. A good practice is to do push-ups on your fists. It straightens as well as strengthens the wrists.

    2)
    Placement- There are what I call crazy punchers who quickly wind themselves and after 10-15 seconds they find themselves getting taken down or counterattacked. BTW wild punchers usually don't land any KO shots. I always had this philosiphy Swing first and swing hard though. Now as far as placement. People's innitial instinct when a punch is coming is to duck. So don't aim for a man's temple (Target #1) but aim for 3 inches below the temple. By the time the strike lands it is a clear orbital bone or temple shot. Target # 2 is the side of the jaw. The same principle is applied.

    3)
    Positioning- The temple or the jaw are not straight ahead targets. So positioning is paramount. Immediately pay attention if the person is a righty or lefty. Always circle to the left or to the right but the opposite direction of the person's strong hand. While circling the main targets fall right into your line of fire.

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    Punches- If you always go by these rules you should inflict maximum damage. Keep your punches straight. No wild swing, no lunging, and definately no holding back. To me a jabs are only effective in amature boxing. In real fighting a strong straight hard lead punch to the nose is what should replace the jab. And lastly do not throw more than a 3 punch combo. Usually the third punch is thrown while a person is out of position and there is very little weight behind it. Just repeat in your head 1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3 whenever you let those hands go.
     
  18. OpethDrums

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    putting your body into it.. it really takes years to perfect your perfect punch. i think shadowboxing and the heavy bag are the best way to acquire a quick powerful punch. but footwork, and accuracy, head movement.. all that stuff cannot be ignored or you can't expect to be good

    oh and if you want heavy hands i think gaining weight (and staying in shape) is the answer

    i think keeping your punches straight is a bad idea. it's too predictable
     
  19. meng_mao

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    Actually, this punch sucks.
     
  20. Sulty

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    Thanks Man.
    Good detail.

    SULTY
     

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