What is your honest opinion on Jon Jones

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How do you view his legacy overall?

Do you consider him the actual champ? If so why do you think he should or shouldn’t be stripped?

Do you think he’s ducking Tom?

Do you think he’s ducked Francis?

I personally do not consider him the GOAT. I think he’s a drug cheat who cherry picked opponents, hes ducking Tom, was scared to death to fight Francis. It’s really sucks living in his hometown. I’m just glad people are finally seeing him for what he is.
 
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Potential GOAT through his second DC fight. But the drug cheating on the DC fights hurts the legacy.

Everything after the second DC and Gus rematch fight feels like a guy coasting on talent and cherry picked matchmaking. He keeps winning (Reyes fight excluded?) but feel like his career would have been better even without a loss had he just dipped out after beating Gus the 2nd time. Legacy's don't pay the bills alone though & if he were to retire now maybe in 5-10 years people will look back on the full picture rather than the terribly awkward fucking of Tom prior to retirement.
 
One of the greatest fighters but the habitual eye poking and the sketchy drug results put an asterisk on his resume.

Doesn’t really need to fight Tom or Francis, but if he were to fight them and win, the asterisk on his resume wouldn’t be so bright.

(For sure should vacate if he’s not gonna fight.)

Gets a lot of shit for stuff he does outside of the cage but people here tend to be sanctimonious about shit, acting like if they were in a position of power and fame they’d be better people.

That’s about it.
 
The biggest fraud to ever compete in the UFC.

A proven cheater, inside and outside of the octagon. The most selfish fighter in UFC history. Had ppv moved, or cancelled by his cowardice. Sitting/sat on two different titles when he had ZERO intentions of actually defending anymore.

And a total POS. He’s a lowlife, and if you support him. SO ARE YOU.
 
People harp on about the end of his career as if it matters. He has a goat resume of other goats yes he has ped violations many of his competition does too, so with that said things are still apples to apples Jon still has the most impressive record cheater or not. He is a special fighter with a unique skill set and no one in MMA will catch up to his achievements for quite some time.

As far as HW goes, it is a bit silly but he did beat gane who was the legit number 1 contender at the time. I don't think he ducked ngannou at all, the UFC just couldn't come to terms with ngannou boxing. Aspinall, he's pricing himself out of which is a form of ducking. But he does probably know this is the end of the road so he doesn't want to leave anything on the table he's trying to cash all his chips.
 
The nastiest fighter of all time.

Hated him originally, but when he embraced being a massive heel I started to like him... Then he started ducking, and I stopped caring about him.

Seems to be difficult to be married to, also.
 
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The GOAT and a basketcase

If he'd had a Cus D'Amato type of figure in his later career, he'd probably be like 43-0-1-1 at this point and be the HW GOAT by a mile as well.



***Edit: It'd be interesting to know how long his mama was sick. Didn't he start getting into trouble in ~2015 a few years before she died?
 
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A legacy tarnished by poor decision making, criminal antics and now unwillingness to fight. That being said, he's still in the GOAT list.
 
A revolting and degenerate human being with intractable character defects, who's also one of the most intelligent and skilled fighters to ever enter the octagon.

I don't regard him as the Heavyweight champion and to be honest, he hasn't done anything majorly impressive for several years. His continued presence in the sport is therefore somewhat tedious, but he could alleviate this feeling and make himself relevant once more, by fighting Aspinall.
 
The biggest fraud to ever compete in the UFC.

A proven cheater, inside and outside of the octagon. The most selfish fighter in UFC history. Had ppv moved, or cancelled by his cowardice. Sitting/sat on two different titles when he had ZERO intentions of actually defending anymore.

And a total POS. He’s a lowlife, and if you support him. SO ARE YOU.

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I don't think he ever got his momentum back after that hit and run incident. Prior to that he was really active and afterwards there was a noticeable change in activity as well as finishes, probably due to the stricter drug tests. On paper he's the GOAT, he has all the records and accolades but the multiple failed drug tests damages his legacy. There's also the fact that he's outright refused to take short notice replacements, has multiple of the same fouls in nearly all his fights, and is blatantly ducking Tom.
 
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