What is the biggest reason Biden won Arizona?

I have several friends living in Arizona who are married to US citizens, two are married to white people and the other who is married to a Mexican American is living in a mining town.

The ones married to Americans are progressive the one in the mining town is conservative, generally apolitical but they dont like divisive politics.

The ones married to Americans gave birth to white kids with American last name (they are light skinned Mexican). Arizona isnt turning into California anytime soon and i dont think Biden would had beat a semi-decent republican candidate like Romney.

Hopefully the Republican party purges Trumpers and the likes of McConnell but i doubt it.
 
This is such BS. Disasters like Covid typically help presidents and rally people behind their leadership, Trump just f'd it up.

we've seen an unprecedented collusion between a political party, legacy news, and all of the tech companies.
If they just covered it with some bias against Trump it's something, but it was full on yellow journalism. The governors
had the power. NJ and NY really boggled it, but the news is touting the grandma killer as some kind of national hero.
 
I believe 4 years wasn't enough but Trump should have tried campaigning or adjusting his message for California/Mexicans.

Trump did better with Latinos this time around his weird alliance with AMLO which has Mexican-Americans enthralled and his rethoric against the dictatorships of Venezuela and Cuba, along with his populist persona (which lets face it, Latinos LOVE populist leaders like Bolsonaro or AMLO) helped him overall... Except in Arizona.

McCain having the last laugh from his grave.
 
I have several friends living in Arizona who are married to US citizens, two are married to white people and the other who is married to a Mexican American is living in a mining town.

The ones married to Americans are progressive the one in the mining town is conservative, generally apolitical but they dont like divisive politics.

The ones married to Americans gave birth to white kids with American last name (they are light skinned Mexican). Arizona isnt turning into California anytime soon and i dont think Biden would had beat a semi-decent republican candidate like Romney.

Hopefully the Republican party purges Trumpers and the likes of McConnell but i doubt it.

K... Ana Navarro
 
Both right and left have agreed many times on this forum that before covid, Trump would have been unstoppable. So that’s why I take this “loss” with a grain of salt and a huge asterisk.

Glad to see you able to discount the fact that Trump epicallly failed the only actual test of his entire presidency. But, sure, putting his big signature on all those EO's was pretty impressive presidential performance. :rolleyes:
 
Anti trump “conservative” always bitching and moaning on cnn

LOL at Trump supporters calling people "conservative".

Which conservative value does Trump actually supports?

EDIT

I never said i was a conservative.
 
Both right and left have agreed many times on this forum that before covid, Trump would have been unstoppable. So that’s why I take this “loss” with a grain of salt and a huge asterisk.

it was the type of crisis (once in a lifetime) that could not be politicized away. Smoke, mirrors, and wishful thinking could not mask the real effects of the pandemic.

Yet Trump tried anyway, in lieu of an actual plan of action, and he failed miserably.
 
Trump did better with Latinos this time around his weird alliance with AMLO which has Mexican-Americans enthralled and his rethoric against the dictatorships of Venezuela and Cuba, along with his populist persona (which lets face it, Latinos LOVE populist leaders like Bolsonaro or AMLO) helped him overall... Except in Arizona.

McCain having the last laugh from his grave.

It's 100% all about McCain.

And you're right... he ended up losing this election due to his disparaging remarks about him.

All it would have took was for Trump to show some grace when passed away. Explain that the debates and political battles were one thing, but that he respected McCain as a person and his military history.
 
I think the comparative size of his shwong has something to do with it, since it's public knowledge that Joe is packing and Donny is in trouble "down south." Arizonans don't respect a little mushroom guy, they respect a swinger.

Oh wait there's also the McCain thing. Yeah Donnie fucked up hard lol.
 
LOL at Trump supporters calling people "conservative".

Which conservative value does Trump actually supports?

EDIT

I never said i was a conservative.

no, she parades on cnn as hispanic “conservative”, but they just use her for her tds.

Now being nationalist, pro life, pro 2nd, pro free speech, pro law and order, anti socialist, anti open borders, pro free market...

Is what you would associate with American right/conservative

What is your definition of “conservative values” exactly?
 
I know you’re coping right now but the election isn’t over yet.

But again, if Trump loses it’s because fat fuckers like him who live on a diet of Big Macs and Diet Coke are simply shit out of luck when their big test as POTUS ends up being a health crisis.

He actually got the disease himself. He failed spectacularly. A more health conscious Republican leader... Paul Ryan for example, would have had more respect for the health and wellness of our nation and would have dealt with Covid like a champ unlike Trump who handled it like a chump

Cruz would have gotten mad at his wife for getting COVID and being ugly.
 
no, she parades on cnn as hispanic “conservative”, but they just use her for her tds.

I dont watch cable news, not even mexican cable news.

Now being nationalist, pro life, pro 2nd, pro free speech, pro law and order, anti socialist, anti open borders, pro free market...

LOL at Donnie being the law and order and pro free market guy.

He went against all trade partners, commited fraud several times, rawdogged a porn actress, attacked the Federal Reserve and runs deficits like never before.

What is your definition of “conservative values” exactly?

Economically? pro free trade and fiscal conservative.
Socially? the exact opposite of Donnie's personal life.
 
I know you’re coping right now but the election isn’t over yet.

But again, if Trump loses it’s because fat fuckers like him who live on a diet of Big Macs and Diet Coke are simply shit out of luck when their big test as POTUS ends up being a health crisis.

He actually got the disease himself. He failed spectacularly. A more health conscious Republican leader... Paul Ryan for example, would have had more respect for the health and wellness of our nation and would have dealt with Covid like a champ unlike Trump who handled it like a chump
Virgin Trump vs Chad Biden
Fat, got covid, lost the election
Lean, will live to be 100, is immune to covid
 
I dont watch cable news, not even mexican cable news.



LOL at Donnie being the law and order and pro free market guy.

He went against all trade partners, commited fraud several times, rawdogged a porn actress, attacked the Federal Reserve and runs deficits like never before.



Economically? pro free trade and fiscal conservative.
Socially? the exact opposite of Donnie's personal life.

having tds and basing your opinions around it doesn’t make it facts...

Also you ignored pretty much all points that would make trump conservative and nitpick couple that you could argue doesn’t make him conservative...

Being a corporate shill, globalist, neoliberal, Warhawk neocon isn’t definition of conservative
 
having tds and basing your opinions around it doesn’t make it facts...

These arent opinions buddy.

Also you ignored pretty much all points that would make trump conservative and nitpick couple that you could argue doesn’t make him conservative...

Just because Trump rubber stamps whatever the fuck is in front of him doesnt makes him "conservative".

The guy that rails against the media all the time is your free speech guy? the guy that said that he could take away guns with an EO? Frauds in the Trump Foundation and Trump University where he had to pay up to make them go away?

Being a corporate shill, globalist, neoliberal, Warhawk neocon isn’t definition of conservative

Agreed, that's why Trump admin isnt "conservative".
 
@grimballer

Love the TDS accusations though, you make it seem like he didnt lost to Sleepy Joe a guy that its so old he most likely wont even finish his term.
 
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