What is actually considered unorthodox?

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  1. Bangkok ready d1 Brown Belt

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    When it comes to mma there are a lot of fighters that are perceived to have unorthodox striking, machida comes to mind, but reallity is lyoto's techniques are most of the time just straight up traditional karate, why is that considered unorthodox in some way and what is the definition of orthodoxy when it comes to striking in your opinion? Personaly i think i guy like tony ferguson who does a lot of weird shiet is a lot more "different" than a traditional karate fighter, even though karate is not that common in mma striking i don't think this makes it " unorthodox striking techniques "
     
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    Some would say Southpaws are unorthodox.
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  3. Goatbib Blue Belt

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    Unorthodox striking = Striking so bad that the opponent gets hit consistently while in shock
     
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    Spinning shit.
     
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  5. MoneyMcGrabber Orange Belt

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    Acording to most people, unorthodox is anything that strays from boxing/ kickboxing/ muay thai techniques.
     
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    First we need to understand what orthodox striking is.
     
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    Works well for Khabib
     
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    This is the answer. People have a belief system of what common base works best in mma, so anything that strays away from that is considered unorthodox. Doing anything away from the fundamentals is considered unorthodox as well. Fundamentals are just fundamentals, the advanced levels is when you can stray away from the fundamentals and be successful with that style or technique.
     
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    Genki Sudo breakdance fighting.
     
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    I still believe that Sherdoggers got Elias thrown out of the UFC. Good for Sherdog and good for Dana.
     
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    unorthodox techniques are just moves that you don't traditionally see in a mma setting, their is some stuff in Judo, Karate, and Taekwondo that could fall under this.
     
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    Unorthodox strikers imo are those that you just can’t fit in any striking category. Like we know Machida and WB are karate based fighters and Volkov is pure Muay Thai but then there are guys like Tony as you mentioned which just do weird shit like punching to the thighs, spinning shit, awkward footwork etc.
     
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    Yeah this, when Silva front kicked Belfort it was seen as something new and not to be expected, but a front kick isnt anything new I don’t believe.
     
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    Some guys do what you “shouldn’t” do but it works for them. Look at Chuck/Igor’s looping punches or Keith Jardine’s ... everything. If it works it works.

    the textbooks can’t account for natural talent.
     
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    Anything that strays from a traditional boxing-like stance and movement. MMA is about creativity, trickery, and throwing a lot of different looks at your opponent, so unorthodox striking can take you a long way, just keep with the fundamentals though. Gaethje exposed Tony Ferguson’s striking badly, Tony was crossing his feet and everything, if he had a strict coach they would have drilled all those bad habits out of him.
     
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    Tony's problem in that fight was that he wasn't wild enough. He tried to fight a more technical style boxing range fight with Justin and he just wasn't fast, or technical enough to keep up. His best success was when he was doing wild strikes, he should've used more elbows and spinning moves and unorthodox entries, that's how he was having the most success in that fight, and his previous fights. Like the dancing chacha spinning elbows he did on RDA. That's the striking style that best suits him.
     
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    Switch "unorthodox" for "atypical" to avoid the confusion with lefty vs. righty.
     

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